GvH fair and balanced

[Cutman]

However, even if you change a simple thing I think people will just want Cutman to do it. It's the curse of the brand. I believe if it was Cutman doing it people would be less harsh.

I doubt that. Go look at the modding section and see how authors are given shit whenever they change any little thing, especially if it's an unnecessary change. A bad change is a bad change regardless of who does it.

I don't really care who does it, I would prefer someone else to to be honest since they're probably more familiar with the ancient code and have more (recent) experience in game. I'm not gonna look until post-3.0 though so anyone can feel free to try stuff until then so we can see what people like.

Gravity 9999?

I was thinking something more complex than that but if that does it then sure!

[Mobius]

I mean, the changes are pretty stupid for the most part. I told you, even though many people don't give credit to LoD, it fixed TONS of bugs and provided some nice features to the classic classes... Enough to keep them what they are, and maybe help them to do their jobs better.

Stop shilling Legacy of Defecation....

If you actually bothered to check what kinds of bugs it fixed, maybe you'd think otherwise.

Come play my wad? To bad the balance didn't reflect your fixes or the polls would say otherwise.

[ibm5155]

What about showing the spot where the jitterskull's going to be teleported if it moves? (ofc this should only be showed to the jitterskull player)

[Ru5tK1ng]

I mean, the changes are pretty stupid for the most part. I told you, even though many people don't give credit to LoD, it fixed TONS of bugs and provided some nice features to the classic classes... Enough to keep them what they are, and maybe help them to do their jobs better.

Stop shilling Legacy of Defecation....

If you actually bothered to check what kinds of bugs it fixed, maybe you'd think otherwise.

Probably bugs courtesy of Carthief.

[jdagenet]

What about showing the spot where the jitterskull's going to be teleported if it moves? (ofc this should only be showed to the jitterskull player)

No.

[Ænima]

What about showing the spot where the jitterskull's going to be teleported if it moves? (ofc this should only be showed to the jitterskull player)

No.

He might be onto something. It could be done with an ACS script with GetPlayerInput.


Of course, it should be optional.

[jdagenet]

What about showing the spot where the jitterskull's going to be teleported if it moves? (ofc this should only be showed to the jitterskull player)

No.

He might be onto something. It could be done with an ACS script with GetPlayerInput.


Of course, it should be optional.

It's not a matter of how to do it, it's a matter of why it should be a thing. I mean realistically, it wouldn't change things in the end. Seems more useless than anything.

[nax]

What about showing the spot where the jitterskull's going to be teleported if it moves? (ofc this should only be showed to the jitterskull player)

No.

He might be onto something. It could be done with an ACS script with GetPlayerInput.


Of course, it should be optional.

It's not a matter of how to do it, it's a matter of why it should be a thing. I mean realistically, it wouldn't change things in the end. Seems more useless than anything.

more information is useful and would allow for better precision in positioning in general. being able to see where you'd end up could raise the skill ceiling of jitter play.

[Ænima]

No.

He might be onto something. It could be done with an ACS script with GetPlayerInput.


Of course, it should be optional.

It's not a matter of how to do it, it's a matter of why it should be a thing. I mean realistically, it wouldn't change things in the end. Seems more useless than anything.

more information is useful and would allow for better precision in positioning in general. being able to see where you'd end up could raise the skill ceiling of jitter play.

Exactly. I mean skilled Jitter players probably don't need it because they have a good feel for how they will move on a particular map. But newbies might benefit from something subtle like a flame sprite or skull outline (with low alpha of course) to guide their steps.

And like I said it would probably be optional, maybe even off by default.

[jdagenet]

He might be onto something. It could be done with an ACS script with GetPlayerInput.


Of course, it should be optional.

It's not a matter of how to do it, it's a matter of why it should be a thing. I mean realistically, it wouldn't change things in the end. Seems more useless than anything.

more information is useful and would allow for better precision in positioning in general. being able to see where you'd end up could raise the skill ceiling of jitter play.

Exactly. I mean skilled Jitter players probably don't need it because they have a good feel for how they will move on a particular map. But newbies might benefit from something subtle like a flame sprite or skull outline (with low alpha of course) to guide their steps.

And like I said it would probably be optional, maybe even off by default.

The reason why newbies can't use Jitter is because they haven't figured out that he requires prediction to consistently kill people. A little symbol or icon that shows where they're going to teleport next isn't going to fix that.

[nax]

Exactly. I mean skilled Jitter players probably don't need it because they have a good feel for how they will move on a particular map. But newbies might benefit from something subtle like a flame sprite or skull outline (with low alpha of course) to guide their steps.

And like I said it would probably be optional, maybe even off by default.

even skilled players could benefit from it as it's the difference between knowing where you'll end up most of the time and knowing where you will end up every single time. in most cases a skilled player will not need it, though there are instances where quick and precise positioning can be impactful. feedback can often be overlooked in multiplayer/competitive games - i remember how much shot indicators on league actually amped up the level of play due to how quickly you can react to things with better precision.

[Cutman]

I don't think it's necessary BUT is there actually a way to show an actor that only you can see? I've wanted to do this for several mods but I'm not sure if anyone's figured out a hacky way to do it yet. I know visibletoteam exists but sometimes you don't want that. The inverse of that would be useful too (you can't see it but everyone else can).

[Catastrophe]

I don't think it's necessary BUT is there actually a way to show an actor that only you can see? I've wanted to do this for several mods but I'm not sure if anyone's figured out a hacky way to do it yet. I know visibletoteam exists but sometimes you don't want that. The inverse of that would be useful too (you can't see it but everyone else can).

Spawning an actor using ACS via clientside script while checking if consoleplayernumber() == playernumber() will result in the actor only being spawned/visible for one person.

[Ivan]

The Jitter movement thing I tried to do before, however at higher ping levels it gets unreliable. Very unreliable.

For the clientside position indicator for Jitter, I think that'd also not be very reliable but it could be worth a shot. However I'd say the game is too frantic to make any use of a position indicator for yourself.

[Ænima]

XD

[Combinebobnt]

Lms gas for that aenima

[jdagenet]

Lms gas for that aenima

Oh is he complaining about the long match rounds with Creeper? Like it's a problem with the mod and not because people are irritated that they died? Bob has a great solution to solving that other than the holy grail of lms gas: don't die.

[r4z0r]

Lms gas for that aenima

Oh is he complaining about the long match rounds with Creeper? Like it's a problem with the mod and not because people are irritated that they died? Bob has a great solution to solving that other than the holy grail of lms gas: don't die.

Its too bad he did end up dying on the boat map smh bob...

[Combinebobnt]

The creeper thing is very effective on me, I get impatient and then go do something stupid. I don't want to spend every round playing it like my last when each map has like 5-9 rounds lol.

[Ænima]

Lms gas for that aenima

Oh is he complaining about the long match rounds with Creeper? Like it's a problem with the mod and not because people are irritated that they died? Bob has a great solution to solving that other than the holy grail of lms gas: don't die.

Chill, bro. It was just a meme i found on Facebook.

Waiting for a round to be over really doesn't bother me, although IMO doing something to speed up creeper hunts would be beneficial to increasing and retaining playercount. I think LMS gas should be included in the mod, but be turned off by default and hosts can do what they want with it.