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Ivan wrote: Yeah AEnima is right, it's really enough. Please stop comparing these for the millionth time already.

WhiteAce wrote: I wasn't really talking about those cutesy anime's there are a few anime's I know of that have metal openings, I should have made myself more clear, I apologize.

The Toxic Avenger wrote:

Ivan wrote: Yeah AEnima is right, it's really enough. Please stop comparing these for the millionth time already.

What if it's like Shogo?

Catastrophe wrote: Well I mean, this song should be familiar to people who've played Invasion UAC and Club Doom, and it didn't sound so bad. Anime OSTs can work, obviously must be instrumental.

TerminusEst13 wrote: I don't know why I'm about to dump a tl;dr srspost, but here we go.

I think the big problem is the idea of anime as some specific kind of ~*~sTyLe~*~ or genre that needs to be adhered to.
This is dumb. It's wrong. And it's the biggest problem with a lot of "anime in Doom!" suggestions, or in fact "anime in X!" suggestions as a whole, because it's trying to think of anime as something that it isn't. Anime is not a genre, anime is a medium. You'd be just as well saying "books in Doom!" or "film in Doom!".
Doing the soundtrack "to sound like it came straight from an anime opening" has absolutely no information by itself since it's doing exactly that problem, trying to pinpoint anime down as a specific genre--which it isn't. Do you want the music to be metal, jazz, chiptune, pop, EDM?

Doom is not an anime, it is a video game. As a video game, it should adhere to a consistent stylistic and artistic direction. Metal music is the most complimentary to original Doom's aesthetic, though obviously depending on the gameplay mod and/or mapset currently loaded there might be another type of music complimentary to the aesthetic.
Catastrophe linked White Reflection, which is a fantastic song--it doesn't work because it's an "anime song", it works because it fits the tone of the map and what's happening at the moment. You could use this song in a deathmatch pack and it would work not because it's an "anime song", but because it's fast-paced and aggressive metal music for killing to. Also because it's rad as fuck, but that's neither here nor there.

The reason why things like Shogo and Oni work is because they're not trying specifically to say "LET'S DO AN ANIME GAME!". They're taking inspiration from very specific sources, and an animated artstyle is only one facet of it. The reason they're good isn't specifically because of the anime art influence, it's because of the fun gameplay, cool music, and awesome guns.
Swan Fox would have been h̶o̶r̶r̶i̶b̶l̶e̶ wonderful regardless of whether it was an anime art style, a film noir art style, or a comic book art style. The combination of MSPaint art, unresponsive weapons, bland levels, forced story with unskippable cutscenes, and etc are vastly more important than what art style or music decision were used.
Hell, Strife uses a comic book artstyle and it's worse than any anime-art game I've ever played WHOOPS DID I JUST SAY THAT OUT LOUD

TerminusEst13 wrote: I don't know why I'm about to dump a tl;dr srspost, but here we go.

I think the big problem is the idea of anime as some specific kind of ~*~sTyLe~*~ or genre that needs to be adhered to.
This is dumb. It's wrong. And it's the biggest problem with a lot of "anime in Doom!" suggestions, or in fact "anime in X!" suggestions as a whole, because it's trying to think of anime as something that it isn't. Anime is not a genre, anime is a medium. You'd be just as well saying "books in Doom!" or "film in Doom!".
Doing the soundtrack "to sound like it came straight from an anime opening" has absolutely no information by itself since it's doing exactly that problem, trying to pinpoint anime down as a specific genre--which it isn't. Do you want the music to be metal, jazz, chiptune, pop, EDM?

Doom is not an anime, it is a video game. As a video game, it should adhere to a consistent stylistic and artistic direction. Metal music is the most complimentary to original Doom's aesthetic, though obviously depending on the gameplay mod and/or mapset currently loaded there might be another type of music complimentary to the aesthetic.
Catastrophe linked White Reflection, which is a fantastic song--it doesn't work because it's an "anime song", it works because it fits the tone of the map and what's happening at the moment. You could use this song in a deathmatch pack and it would work not because it's an "anime song", but because it's fast-paced and aggressive metal music for killing to. Also because it's rad as fuck, but that's neither here nor there.

The reason why things like Shogo and Oni work is because they're not trying specifically to say "LET'S DO AN ANIME GAME!". They're taking inspiration from very specific sources, and an animated artstyle is only one facet of it. The reason they're good isn't specifically because of the anime art influence, it's because of the fun gameplay, cool music, and awesome guns.
Swan Fox would have been h̶o̶r̶r̶i̶b̶l̶e̶ wonderful regardless of whether it was an anime art style, a film noir art style, or a comic book art style. The combination of MSPaint art, unresponsive weapons, bland levels, forced story with unskippable cutscenes, and etc are vastly more important than what art style or music decision were used.
Hell, Strife uses a comic book artstyle and it's worse than any anime-art game I've ever played WHOOPS DID I JUST SAY THAT OUT LOUD

TerminusEst13 wrote: I don't know why I'm about to dump a tl;dr srspost, but here we go.

I think the big problem is the idea of anime as some specific kind of ~*~sTyLe~*~ or genre that needs to be adhered to.
This is dumb. It's wrong. And it's the biggest problem with a lot of "anime in Doom!" suggestions, or in fact "anime in X!" suggestions as a whole, because it's trying to think of anime as something that it isn't. Anime is not a genre, anime is a medium. You'd be just as well saying "books in Doom!" or "film in Doom!".
Doing the soundtrack "to sound like it came straight from an anime opening" has absolutely no information by itself since it's doing exactly that problem, trying to pinpoint anime down as a specific genre--which it isn't. Do you want the music to be metal, jazz, chiptune, pop, EDM?

Doom is not an anime, it is a video game. As a video game, it should adhere to a consistent stylistic and artistic direction. Metal music is the most complimentary to original Doom's aesthetic, though obviously depending on the gameplay mod and/or mapset currently loaded there might be another type of music complimentary to the aesthetic.
Catastrophe linked White Reflection, which is a fantastic song--it doesn't work because it's an "anime song", it works because it fits the tone of the map and what's happening at the moment. You could use this song in a deathmatch pack and it would work not because it's an "anime song", but because it's fast-paced and aggressive metal music for killing to. Also because it's rad as fuck, but that's neither here nor there.

The reason why things like Shogo and Oni work is because they're not trying specifically to say "LET'S DO AN ANIME GAME!". They're taking inspiration from very specific sources, and an animated artstyle is only one facet of it. The reason they're good isn't specifically because of the anime art influence, it's because of the fun gameplay, cool music, and awesome guns.
Swan Fox would have been h̶o̶r̶r̶i̶b̶l̶e̶ wonderful regardless of whether it was an anime art style, a film noir art style, or a comic book art style. The combination of MSPaint art, unresponsive weapons, bland levels, forced story with unskippable cutscenes, and etc are vastly more important than what art style or music decision were used.
Hell, Strife uses a comic book artstyle and it's worse than any anime-art game I've ever played WHOOPS DID I JUST SAY THAT OUT LOUD

Combinebobnt wrote: yea u like amine cool idea, now go actually make it

TerminusEst13 wrote: Metal music is the most complimentary to original Doom's aesthetic, though obviously depending on the gameplay mod and/or mapset currently loaded there might be another type of music complimentary to the aesthetic.