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Greetings all.

So I'm trying to get a coop game to run with a friend but despite several attempts, it has been unsuccessful thus far. So I'm hoping we can get some help here.

We both are using wireless internet, have the same versions of Doomseeker/Zand. Both our firewalls allow complete access to both applications.

Here's our 2 step procedure. I'll assume I'm the host:

1) In Doomseeker, I go to Options> Configure> Custom Servers. I add a 10666 port. Under "Host", the IP address I input is not the one of my wireless's IPv4 but that of Hamachi. For some reason, when I input the Wireless IPv4 and create a server, even if I've unchecked Broadcast to LAN and only checked Broadcast to Master, it still shows the server as a LAN one (shows gray monitors instead of country flag). Using the Hamachi IP, it shows the server as being in UK (we both are in Canada). After punching in the IP, Apply and OK.

2) The server shows up in the list as a <NO RESPONSE> one. Then I proceed to create a server via Zan. Once it is up and running via Zan and I've refreshed, the server will change its name to the one given in Zan. I can then join this server without any problems (if he creates a server the same way, he can join his without any issues. Creating a server and joining that created server is not a problem).

Now here's the thing. In Hamachi, I've already setup a network and he has joined it successfully. But in Doomseeker, he cannot see the server that I've created. I can see it in front of me but he can't. No filters are active on his end. Now I know most would quickly bring the port forwarding thing but again, unless I'm unaware of it, some kind of port forwarding procedure will not work with wireless.

I even had him use my IP to create a custom server, thinking this would need to be done to sort of "add" my server to his list and join that way but that didn't work. We've tried back and forth being client and server but no luck. Broadcast is always set to check Master only, not LAN.

The only thing we haven't tried yet is joining a server while being in-game with Zan, using the console and connect "ip address:port" command. Soon after we called quits, I remembered about this and tested it after creating my server. So being in my own server, and using the above command with the Hamachi IP, I could join my server that way.

I'll hopefully get to try this this upcoming weekend but until then, I'd appreciate it if some tips could be given regarding the use of DS/Zan with wireless and whether or not Hamachi could be avoided (in a sense, having Doomseeker show my server with a Canadian flag using my wireless IPv4 IP instead of just having it appear as LAN or a Hamachi UK server).

Lastly, not too important and I feel noobish for asking but is it possible to use OpenGL online with Zan/DS? I really couldn't find any method of doing this (Zan application has the OpenGL option but when creating a Zan server through DS, there is no option for it).

Thanks for any input.

Remove Hamachi. And never use again.

Check both of your antiviruses. It's not only Windows Firewall which you should take care of.

You can also host for free on Best Ever for a stable North American server

You dont host a opengl/software server.. Clients pick the setting they like.

Firstly, thank you all for the fast responses.

Now,

At / Mazter[Qyoun-ae]: We both are using McAfee Security Center and in its Firewall settings, both Zan and DS have full access. Windows Firewall is already disabled since it says that the vendor app, McAfee, is handling the firewall. I don't think McAfee's Spyware and Virus protection component has any exclusions option.s

At Watermelon: That sounds interesting and looks like it will work. I've registered in the DS/Zan IRC as well as the Best Ever website and am able to supposedly "host" a game. Problem is I'm not sure how to actually confirm if I've hosted a server or not. The server list still has the custom server (on Mazter's suggestion, using my wireless IPv4 and not Hamachi's IP), so is this the one I'll be using after I host on IRC or should it be different? Also, is there any command to add pk3 files like Brutal doom for instance? Lastly, is it alright to discuss any issues here or should I take them to the Best Ever official thread? EDIT: Assume I'm always refreshing after doing something in DS.

At Cruduxy: So the one hosting cannot utilize openGL but the one joining can? Even so, how does the client joining the server enable it? I simply right-click and click join when I'm joining any other server through DS (I only see the option for OpenGL when loading the standalone Zan application. Don't see it anywhere in DS or as you've said, when hosting via DS/Zan).

It should remember your last setting. Also you can change it in game. The change dialogue only shows if you're not running any parameters (maps, multiplayer, etc). Normally people don't switch it very often.

And about hosting game on BE, be sure to read FAQ... I somehow feel you didn't do it.

^ Wait wait wait... "It should remember your last setting", what are you referring to exactly?

Also, the FAQ, is it on the Best Ever public topic, first page? If so, I've already read it but didn't find answers. Is there another FAQ I'm unaware of?

EDIT: The FAQ is the Zan noob pill one I assume? If so then yes, I haven't checked that one out yet. I'd expect a BE related faq to be in the BE thread though.

Lastly, should I take the discussion there or keep it here (about Best Ever)?

Biosyn wrote:
At Cruduxy: So the one hosting cannot utilize openGL but the one joining can? Even so, how does the client joining the server enable it? I simply right-click and click join when I'm joining any other server through DS (I only see the option for OpenGL when loading the standalone Zan application. Don't see it anywhere in DS or as you've said, when hosting via DS/Zan).

Hey, the server does not decide if opengl or software is used. It is up to the client (the player) to set that in their video settings.

Ok, I'd appreciate it if people could bear with my noobishness for a bit longer. :P

Alright, so I've managed to start a server by joining the #bestever channel and punching in the hostname, iwad, gamemode command. The server starts as BestBot indicates and I can see in my Best Ever website's control panel, server log, the name of the server, unique ID and date. So now I'm asking... how am I to actually begin the game in the server and what steps must my friend take to join the game? I assume he will have to create a user name and password using the /msgNick name password email command, register in the website and then join my channel using the /join #channel command? Is that correct?

At mifu: About the openGL thing, where can we set that? Which video settings do you refer to?

It's in your server browser. Just seek for the name of server you set. Friend doesn't have to go to IRC... IRC is IRC and master server (thingie which saves all the server names) is master server.
Also, it seems like you haven't played on servers a lot? Maybe you should, before making one yourself... I know it's a server for friend etc but you should first understand a bit how it works to be able to set up everything and make game enjoyable.

Biosyn wrote: At Watermelon: That sounds interesting and looks like it will work. I've registered in the DS/Zan IRC as well as the Best Ever website and am able to supposedly "host" a game. Problem is I'm not sure how to actually confirm if I've hosted a server or not. The server list still has the custom server (on Mazter's suggestion, using my wireless IPv4 and not Hamachi's IP), so is this the one I'll be using after I host on IRC or should it be different? Also, is there any command to add pk3 files like Brutal doom for instance? Lastly, is it alright to discuss any issues here or should I take them to the Best Ever official thread? EDIT: Assume I'm always refreshing after doing something in DS.

If you've registered with the nickserv, and then you register with best ever (instructions on the website http://[bad site] ) you will then be able to type in the channel host commands like the following

.host hostname="My server" iwad=doom2.wad skill=4 gamemode=dm wad=mypk3.pk3,brutaldoom.pk3
...etc
All of it is on the website

If successful, it will PM you the rcon password and link to the log file. It is all hosted on a powerful computer in New York, completely free of charge to everyone who uses it.





The problem with hosting on wireless and at home is that the connection won't be too stable and any network errors will prevent you from hosting. When hosting on BE, it will always show up on the master server, so you have a guaranteed server that you can do whatever (within reason) you want with it (including kicking out people you don't want in...etc)



You can always PM me for help

Alright, everything is setup just as I wanted it. I can see my server listed as a [BE] one with the name I set for it as well as with the mod.

My thanks to all who replied and to Watermelon for suggesting the use of Best Ever servers. Hopefully, come this weekend, my friend and I should be able to enjoy a nice coop game in Brutal doom.

Hopefully we won't run into any trouble but if we do, I'll be sure to take all possible steps to correct it before posting.

And about the OpenGL... finally realized the video settings people speak of referred to those in-game. Got too used to starting Doom via drag-n-drop that I forgot it had advanced video options inside the game itself. Silly me. :)