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Zanstuff

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:05 pm
by Hypnotoad
Should we bring this back?

For those who don't know/remember, "skullstuff" reviews was skulltag's version of the newstuff chronicles; doomworld's wad review service. Would anyone be interested in doing something similar for zan?

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:19 pm
by legion
sure, I think I could write a review if I get assed enough to do it

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:30 pm
by Ænima
I volunteer to be a reviewer, since I already have one review under my belt.

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:54 pm
by Hypnotoad
I'd say we need about 4 or 5 reviewers for this to work out.

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:32 pm
by Qent
I thought Skullstuff was more about opinionated rants than reviews, but I never read it enough to know that for sure. :sad:

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:34 pm
by Marcaek
Isn't every review an opinionated rant? :V

It'd be cool to have some objectively-minded folk aboard such a team.

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:39 pm
by Hypnotoad
Qent wrote: I thought Skullstuff was more about opinionated rants than reviews, but I never read it enough to know that for sure. :sad:
It was, it should have really been called "#skullrant reviews"; it generated a lot of drama, good times.

This time around I do not intend for it to be like that though.

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:51 pm
by TerminusEst13
I wouldn't mind taking a crack at it. I need to get back into writing.

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:59 pm
by Zakken
I love writing, so I volunteer for this! :D

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:59 pm
by Catastrophe
Yeah I'm interested to review

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:18 am
by Balrog
me2

I've been meaning to sign up for a /newstuff/ review, actually. Who's going to be pulling up stuff to review?

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:45 am
by Iced
I can review things.

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:32 am
by Torvald
I'd be down for that. I can review stuff.

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:24 am
by Medicris
Seems fun, and there's more than enough volunteers. Go for it!

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:29 am
by Cruduxy
Heh you should give them a wad and ask them to review it as an exam now :P

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:47 pm
by Hypnotoad
Should this be done with a hand picked team of reviewers, or should it be a system where anyone can review something, as is done now on doomworld?

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:05 pm
by Ænima
Marcaek wrote: It'd be cool to have some objectively-minded folk aboard such a team.
Objectivity is impossible, as even the act of witnessing something creates subjectivity.
Hypnotoad wrote:
Qent wrote: I thought Skullstuff was more about opinionated rants than reviews, but I never read it enough to know that for sure. :sad:
It was, it should have really been called "#skullrant reviews"; it generated a lot of drama, good times.

This time around I do not intend for it to be like that though.
Thank you.
Hypnotoad wrote: Should this be done with a hand picked team of reviewers, or should it be a system where anyone can review something, as is done now on doomworld?
I think it should be open to anyone. The closed-group structure that SS had kind of led to some unfair biases being created. Like, they would get on TS, play a map pack together, nitpick it over and over again, and then give it a shit review. I was actually with them when they did this with Sniper_109's second incarnation of "ReDoom", which actually wasn't that bad of a map pack aside from the unnecessary DEHACKED weapons.


Howbout this:
Anyone can write a review, but only those who prove that they can write quality unbiased reviews get the "trusted reviewer" title. That way, someone who writes "BRUTAL DOOM IS BEST WAD EVER, 10/10, PLAY IT NOW JEJEJEJE" won't actually be considered part of the official review staff.

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:35 pm
by TerminusEst13
Ænima wrote:Howbout this:
Anyone can write a review, but only those who prove that they can write quality unbiased reviews get the "trusted reviewer" title. That way, someone who writes "BRUTAL DOOM IS BEST WAD EVER, 10/10, PLAY IT NOW JEJEJEJE" won't actually be considered part of the official review staff.
I'm down with this. Hypnotoad picks up a batch of wads, people PM him with their reviews, he reviews the reviews, and after the reviews of the reviews from the reviewers are done, he says who gets to review.

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:43 pm
by Marcaek
Okay, how about a reasonable degree of objectivity? Like, if someone doesn't like CTF maps, they shouldn't review them\reviewers should focus on the technical qualities of work rather than "this is fun because I like\dislike shitty mods"

Do you see where I'm going with this?

RE: Zanstuff

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:05 pm
by Hypnotoad
Ænima wrote: Howbout this:
Anyone can write a review, but only those who prove that they can write quality unbiased reviews get the "trusted reviewer" title. That way, someone who writes "BRUTAL DOOM IS BEST WAD EVER, 10/10, PLAY IT NOW JEJEJEJE" won't actually be considered part of the official review staff.
We need to decide a system for flagging wads and submitting reviews, unlike doomworld, Zandronum does not have a release repository that can be easily used to claim reviews on.