Zandronum

alot of sprites and monsters are missing from zandronum, like the cacolatern, blood demons, and alot of other things. a few decorations are missing, like the "pool of blood with marine helmet". in a lot of Skulltag wads, there are error signs all over the place because zandronum does not support all the custom things that skulltag has added. is there a planned update to add all these back in or are old wads now unplayable?

You need to load skulltag_actors.pk3 and skulltag_data.pk3.

just load wads with skulltag_data.pk3 and skulltag_actors.pk3

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Theyre playable. You just need to load st data and actors with whatever old skulltag wadx yoi want to play.

Actually, it's best if you use skulltag_actors_1-1-1.pk3 followed by skulltag_data_126.pk3, and then the WADs you want to use in the proper order.

Unless things are different, no, they won't be added back. They were intentionally left out.

Thanks for the workarounds guys, a shame they wont add back the other stuff, seems kinda weird they intentionally left out content that expanded the game. it's not like any of that stuff was mandatory, or forcefully changed the gameplay.

Don't get why anyone cares for those bad recolored monsters with increased hp.. they could be done using decorate translate buuut its way better to do the entire sprite sheets since its drag all images and click a button!

Some of the weapons and decorations are justified though and load the actors for them :P

Sponsky wrote: Thanks for the workarounds guys, a shame they wont add back the other stuff, seems kinda weird they intentionally left out content that expanded the game. it's not like any of that stuff was mandatory, or forcefully changed the gameplay.

It was bloated, stolen garbage that served as a crutch for bad mappers as well as unnecessarily inflating the size of the project. It hardly "expanded" the game.

Anything that decides to use the Skulltag resources for it's own purposes can always include them, but it's probably for the best to find an alternative.

Zap610 wrote:bloated, stolen garbage

And what little that wasn't stolen, our friendly Zandroum overlords could not (or would not spend exceeding amounts of time to) get hold of the long gone creators and request proper opensource permissions for.

I dunno the custom weapons and monsters actually brought a bunch of people I know to this port, including myself.

70% of the content can be reproduced with triple quality in like 2 hours :_

Catastrophe wrote: I dunno the custom weapons and monsters actually brought a bunch of people I know to this port, including myself.

this, i come to ST because of unlagged and the "new things" (most the SSG zombie :V) but anyway

The custom monsters and weapons did a good job showing what was possible with the port, acting as a small sampler by showing the potential of Decorate in online play.
That being said, they themselves didn't do a good job at...well. Being good. The weapons didn't add much (aside from the railgun, for obvious reasons) and the monsters were mostly poor recolors.

I think it would be good to make entirely new weapons and monsters to show off the capabilities of Zandronum, utilizing some advanced Decorate/ACS.

The question is, what sort of weapons/monsters would compliment the goal/feel of Zandronum? It seems like rather than nicking Skulltag's Quake-ish feel, it seems Zandronum is more interested in a sci-fi/space feel.

Sponsky wrote: Thanks for the workarounds guys, a shame they wont add back the other stuff, seems kinda weird they intentionally left out content that expanded the game. it's not like any of that stuff was mandatory, or forcefully changed the gameplay.

FYI, we just separated the additional content from the engine for technical and legal reasons. The only difference for the user is that the Skulltag content is not loaded automatically, but has to be loaded manually.

Note that this is not a workaround, but an intended change that gives more freedom to the users, i.e. if you don't want or need the Skulltag additions, you are not forced to load them.

TerminusEst13 wrote: I think it would be good to make entirely new weapons and monsters to show off the capabilities of Zandronum, utilizing some advanced Decorate/ACS.

I agree, that would be great.

Well, don't the various mods we have already do that? Why not advertise them alongside the port as a demo?

Most Zandronum/Skulltag mods and some Doom/ZDoom mods should be on the Zandronum wiki, IMHO.

Sure, but that doesn't really constitute advertising. Zandro needs more non-doom community advertising for both mods and the Doom side of things.

Marcaek wrote: Sure, but that doesn't really constitute advertising. Zandro needs more non-doom community advertising for both mods and the Doom side of things.

Where do you suggest advertising besides YouTube?