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Anyways playing without auto-aim increases your skill tenfold. I'm starting to disable autoaim myself.

General Mike wrote: Anyways playing without auto-aim increases your skill tenfold. I'm starting to disable autoaim myself.

yeah, autoaim is for the weak, just like sleep

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This.

General Mike wrote: Anyways playing without auto-aim increases your skill tenfold. I'm starting to disable autoaim myself.

Depends what you're playing on.

i have it off, because when i use the rocketlauncher to shoot up or from far, someone always attract the rocket

General Mike wrote: Anyways playing without auto-aim increases your skill tenfold. I'm starting to disable autoaim myself.

Depends. If you are practicing for a time when you don't have autoaim, then turning it off will help your skill. If you are practicing to take advantage of autoaim, then turning it off will hurt your skill.

Qent wrote:

General Mike wrote: Anyways playing without auto-aim increases your skill tenfold. I'm starting to disable autoaim myself.

Depends. If you are practicing for a time when you don't have autoaim, then it will help your skill. If you are practicing to take advantage of autoaim, then it will hurt your skill.

Yeah autoaim is a skill in itself, like knowing when to shoot someone vertically above or below you.

I still play mostly with keyboard only whenever and wherever I can -inb4 lol why-..
No need to turn the game into an insane clusterfest with autoaim off that way :P

btw how does it hurt skill? I find myself dodging way better while autoaim instead of mouse -because have access to arrows in addition to wasd-

Oh boy. Not this again. The "autoaim means less skill" argument is years old. And quite frankly it's a pretty stupid assumption to make.

BTW I'm pretty sure most competitive players use autoaim. Personally, I only use autoaim for PvP gamemodes. I keep it off for coop/singleplayer. And when i do use it in PvP, i use an alias to toggle it off temporarily when i switch to the rocketlauncher.

Most, if not all the top players in the game use autoaim. It's nothing to be ashamed of, if someone calls you a noob when you use autoaim, simply challenge him to duel32 and watch as he majestically misses all of his shots.

Catastrophe wrote: Most, if not all the top players in the game use autoaim. It's nothing to be ashamed of, if someone calls you a noob when you use autoaim, simply challenge him to duel32 and watch as he majestically misses all of his shots.

This ^

You're not cool if you don't use autoaim. All the cool kids use it.

Don't all the Duel32 servers force freelook off? Of course he's gonna majestically miss, then!

but if my mind is not bad (cuz i have half year not playing duels) if you have autoaim disabled, the server do not activate it automatically? since the freelook is off via CVARs

When the server (or players, too?) disables freelook, autoaim is "Always" automatically, regardless of players' autoaim settings. I'm not sure what happens if the server disables freelook and autoaim, but why would you do that?

Ænima wrote: Oh boy. Not this again. The "autoaim means less skill" argument is years old. And quite frankly it's a pretty stupid assumption to make.

No one is saying it means less skill, it's all a matter of what you're training for. I turned off autoaim in Doom to get better at GvH, which doesn't allow it.

Qent wrote:

Ænima wrote: Oh boy. Not this again. The "autoaim means less skill" argument is years old. And quite frankly it's a pretty stupid assumption to make.

No one is saying it means less skill ...

Lord_of_D: wrote:

General Mike wrote: Anyways playing without auto-aim increases your skill tenfold. I'm starting to disable autoaim myself.

yeah, autoaim is for the weak, just like sleep

See? Noob logic. The assumption that not using vertical aim assistance makes you macho and leet. In reality, autoaim doesn't help you at all unless you learn to properly maneuver and time your shots -- and THAT's where the skill is.

Oh, I thought "just like sleep" was supposed to be the sarcasm flag. Because sleep is good and stuff.

Having to be proficient in two axes is naturally harder than just one. The only reason someone would do better with it off than on with freelook is because of the autoaim dead zone which punishes players who have good aim but not dead accurate aim.

Doing better with it off is a placebo effect IMO. I play with it on all the time and I do just fine in freelook w/ no autoaim servers.

I always thought that autoaim is for no freelook, and no autoaim is for freelook... And since competetive is mostly played without freelook, how is it for noobs?

Keyboard only is harder than mouse+keyboard.. keyboard only insanely difficult with autoaim off -AM LOOKING AT THOSE DAMN PE-