Built in skins with zandronum

[Qent]

Only certain lumps are authenticated. Skins are not.

[NeuralStunner]

The information I refer is: deleting skins folder disables skins in all instances in the game.

No kidding? Really? You're sure? Isn't that the entire point of this discussion?

Unless you mean it disables skins from server-side, which is entirely false. (I always run my server without skins or other extraneous files, and nothing untoward happens.)

If it's a client feature, let's make all the skins white, so you can't hide in dark or brownish places, so I can see where my opponent is. Everywhere. And that is a cheat.

I don't even see what you're trying to say here. (Not that I want you to elaborate. I'm sure the explanation would make just as little sense as the rest.)

Even if the server requires you to download the skin package, it won't be all servers, there's always an option, at least. And it would be unfair and unethical "promoting" only a (or a group of) set of skins.

Servers should not -file load any file that isn't essential to the mod (since server browsers don't know any different). And a Skins folder on the server does exactly nothing for the client.

I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish, other than perpetuating a pointless argument. I already feel like my INT has dropped even from my limited involvement.

[Qent]

If it's a client feature, let's make all the skins white, so you can't hide in dark or brownish places, so I can see where my opponent is. Everywhere. And that is a cheat.

I don't even see what you're trying to say here. (Not that I want you to elaborate. I'm sure the explanation would make just as little sense as the rest.)

Translation: You can cheat by replacing sprites to gain an advantage.

[NeuralStunner]

Translation: You can cheat by replacing sprites to gain an advantage.

What does that have to do with it being a client feature or not? Nevermind that it's irrelevant to the question of including skins with the port. If someone's going to cheat, they'll cheat.

[Qent]

Because if only skins actually loaded by the server were allowed and those skins were authenticated, then such cheating would be a teensy bit more difficult. It would also make the question of which skins to include in the default installation more important, because those are probably the only skins you'll ever be able to use.

Not that I think it's a good idea or anything. It's not like it'd be much trouble to send a false hash to get your skins verified.

[Guest]

Translation: You can cheat by replacing sprites to gain an advantage.

This.

Because if only skins actually loaded by the server were allowed and those skins were authenticated, then such cheating would be a teensy bit more difficult. It would also make the question of which skins to include in the default installation more important, because those are probably the only skins you'll ever be able to use.

Not that I think it's a good idea or anything. It's not like it'd be much trouble to send a false hash to get your skins verified.

And this. Pretty much what I was trying to say and a little more. Thanks!

[Ghastly]

Translation: You can cheat by replacing sprites to gain an advantage.

This.

Except you can't do this through skins because individual players have to have that skin selected.

(Don't you love when you post with a good point and everyone ignores it so they can keep on with their argument?)

[Racoon]

wouldn't the player who uses a skin that others don't have in their skins folder be seen as a default Base marine?

[Qent]

Nooooo that is not how you cheat right. You replace the base skin with white rectangles of the appropriate size or what have you. Which I think should work but I don't really want to try it.

EDIT: Wait Ghastly, I said what you said and now you're disagreeing with me WTF.

[Catastrophe]

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[Ænima]

It's really not even that much of an advantage ...

[Ghastly]

EDIT: Wait Ghastly, I said what you said and now you're disagreeing with me WTF.

Ah shoot, sorry, I thought you meant using skins to cheat like that. It was a long day and I misread your post.

But yeah, replacing sprites has nothing to do with skins because it can be easily done without skins.

@Racoon: Yep. So if you don't like a skin, don't download it, and you won't see it.

[EnsaladaDeTomate]

Hope this pack has the original Crash's taunt...

here is btw:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/podce ... iginal.wav < .wav format :P

[chesse20]

EDIT: Wait Ghastly, I said what you said and now you're disagreeing with me WTF.

Ah shoot, sorry, I thought you meant using skins to cheat like that. It was a long day and I misread your post.

But yeah, replacing sprites has nothing to do with skins because it can be easily done without skins.

@Racoon: Yep. So if you don't like a skin, don't download it, and you won't see it.

ya put in the new skin pack that everyone made

[Zedek The Plague Doctor]

There was a fixed-palette Strifeguy and a few really great female marine skins. I'd really like those to be back.

Man, I always used Strifeguy. He was my favorite. I really wish he were back.