ConsoleCommand discussion

[Ænima]

On the subject of data saving and abuse, is it possible to call Autosave every tick and thrash the user's drive? Or is there a safety on this function already?

There's a max of 3 or 4 autosave slots, I think. Once a map uses autosave0.zds through autosave3.zds, it goes back to 0 and overwrites it.

[Hypnotoad]

Settings (DMFlags/renderer/&c.) which a map requires to work properly should be added to MapInfo.

Not sufficient, some mods do not have maps in themselves (designed to run with any map wad of choice) but still need certain flags to work properly on any map.

One solution is to have dmflags and such set in the gamemode lump, or to provide specific acs functions to change dmflags and compatflags.

[Watermelon]

Is it unreasonable to have a flag to disallow openGL rendering? It gives people quite the advantage and allows concentrated ssg shots when vertically looking up/down (which is a HUGE benefit in various CTF maps)

[Ænima]

Is it unreasonable to have a flag to disallow openGL rendering? It gives people quite the advantage and allows concentrated ssg shots when vertically looking up/down (which is a HUGE benefit in various CTF maps)

IIRC, a "limit GL freelook" flag was implemented a while back for that very reason. It limits your maximum/minimum pitch to that of a software user.

[Qent]

I would not like that at all. Couldn't you let SW users shoot straight up or down, even if you can't render it?

[Watermelon]

Is it unreasonable to have a flag to disallow openGL rendering? It gives people quite the advantage and allows concentrated ssg shots when vertically looking up/down (which is a HUGE benefit in various CTF maps)

IIRC, a "limit GL freelook" flag was implemented a while back for that very reason. It limits your maximum/minimum pitch to that of a software user.

CL_OldFreeLookLimit which is supposed to do that doesn't even work, I set it to true and I could still aim straight down.

EDIT: Apparently that only works for software and only for looking up, not down... is there a GL one?

I would not like that at all. Couldn't you let SW users shoot straight up or down, even if you can't render it?

I have no idea how this would be accomplished based on my knowledge of how the hacky software rendering is done.



I think the best solution is to make CL_OldFreeLookLimit work again (if it ever did), and then to allow the server to force it on the clients with a dmflag if the host should so choose. That way everyone can keep openGL

[Qent]

Why would rendering be a problem if you don't even render it?

[Watermelon]

It'd be impossible to tell if you're aiming down or not, though I wonder what would result if the limit was removed. It'd be a cool thing to test

[Ænima]

It'd be impossible to tell if you're aiming down or not, though I wonder what would result if the limit was removed. It'd be a cool thing to test

You can do it with mods that use "recoil" (aka SetActorPitch). Everything just looks super stretched and distorted due to the Y-shearing.

[NeuralStunner]

There's a max of 3 or 4 autosave slots, I think. Once a map uses autosave0.zds through autosave3.zds, it goes back to 0 and overwrites it.

Not really what I was looknig for: A system to prevent too many disk writes in a short period.

[Torr Samaho]

Is it unreasonable to have a flag to disallow openGL rendering?

Yes.

IIRC, a "limit GL freelook" flag was implemented a while back for that very reason. It limits your maximum/minimum pitch to that of a software user.

No, AFAIR such a thing never existed. We can talk about adding such a flag though.

I think the best solution is to make CL_OldFreeLookLimit work again (if it ever did), and then to allow the server to force it on the clients with a dmflag if the host should so choose. That way everyone can keep openGL

cl_oldfreelooklimit does exactly what it's supposed to do:

! - Increased Software's freelook to +-56 degrees (in otherwords you can now look up as much as you could down). This is done to reduce the advantage of OpenGL. The old limit can be restored with the new CVAR cl_oldfreelooklimit (default false). [Blzut3, Torr Samaho]