Why are you able to run so fast in Doom?

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Why are you able to run so fast in Doom?

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Post by Screenracer » Fri May 30, 2014 1:23 pm

I have been questioning this for a while but never asked anyone. Why can the player run so fast in DOOM 1 and 2? Was it a bug that ID software couldnt fix? Was it made that way on purpose? If so, then why? Why would ID software want you to be able to run faster then a car?

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Post by agaures » Fri May 30, 2014 1:44 pm

It was intentional. And seeming as you wouldn't actually encounter any cars in the game, I'm not seeing the problem.

Doom was meant to be a unrealistic fast paced game that you can get in to.
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Post by jwaffe » Fri May 30, 2014 1:46 pm

I wonder this as well, though I think it was brilliant personally.

Being able to move so fast is a good substitute for not being able to duck, roll, and lunge left/right like you would in real life if you were in a fast paced gunfight. Basically it makes up for the inefficient method that you're using to control your character (no keyboard is as good as your own muscles).

Personally I love being able to most fast in action games, it's simpler and it feels more natural to me than "double tap a while holding the control stick left to do a quick jump left" anyday.
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Post by Screenracer » Fri May 30, 2014 1:52 pm

agaures wrote: It was intentional. And seeming as you wouldn't actually encounter any cars in the game, I'm not seeing the problem.

Doom was meant to be a unrealistic fast paced game that you can get in to.
I don't have a problem with it or anything. Im just wondering.

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Post by Ænima » Fri May 30, 2014 3:59 pm

It was a mathematical oversight IIRC. ID made running speed simply x + y velocity, when it should have been a Pythagorean equation.


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Post by Slim » Fri May 30, 2014 6:27 pm

Or simply, that's asking the same question as why Mario jumps so high, it's a vidya gaem damn it. Logic wasn't so existant in video games especially back then.
EDIT: Or simply Doomguy is a step in evolution and can run as fast as a train.
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Post by Medicris » Fri May 30, 2014 8:15 pm

Because fast is fun. Here's an exercise for you: pop open the game, turn off freelook/turn on autoaim, go to the automap, and type "iddt" twice and pretend it's a shooter like Asteroids. That's basically how Doom really is in a nutshell.

It's a 1993 videogame when FPS was still in its infancy. Silly things like "sense" or "relative scale" didn't have to apply. Things like "limited sprinting" like in modern military shooters didn't exist. Consider for a second how slow you move with autorun off in Doom, that's like power-walking or jogging speed, right? I can imagine someone as built as Doomguy managing a sprinting speed of Doom's forward running, and something like "sprint stamina" wasn't a concept at the time (SR-40/50's a technical oversight).

I'm convinced Doomguy is something more than human anyway.
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Post by Vivid » Fri May 30, 2014 11:15 pm

Screenracer wrote: Why are you able to run so fast in Doom?
Why not?

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Post by Slim » Fri May 30, 2014 11:49 pm

Decay wrote: Do you even know what logic is?
Logic is correct use of reasoning in stuff, of course I know. And Doom wasn't exactly proper with logic. (hellish invasions, medkits can heal the almost dead back to full health instantly, you know.)
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Post by Laggy Blazko » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:20 pm

Suicide Slim wrote: And Doom wasn't exactly proper with logic. (hellish invasions, medkits can heal the almost dead back to full health instantly, you know.)
That sounds more "improbable" than "illogical". I think videogames are logical as long as "their own physical laws" don't contradict themselves.

Back on topic, I suppose usual human speed seemed very slow back in the day. Doom maps are huge and non-linear, so they would want to make non-shooting times shorter.
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Post by Cruduxy » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:24 pm

Because doomguy takes a stimpack every 5 secs.
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Post by Slayer » Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:43 pm

OP, look up SR50 to be able to run even faster.

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Post by IdeIdoom » Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:51 pm

I know why. You gotta go fast. You just need to hit that 90 mph, baby!
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