Should Edd be unbanned from the forums?

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Re: Should Edd be unbanned from the forums?

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Post by Jenova » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:43 pm

Konda wrote:Wait is this a meme thread or not
It's never a meme when we're trying to get a valuable member of the community unbanned.

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Re: Should Edd be unbanned from the forums?

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Post by Ru5tK1ng » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:01 pm

Jenova wrote:
Ivan wrote:
Jenova wrote: *** Stuff Mobius said on irc ***
To be fair most of those are spot-on though.
I'm not disputing that, there's plenty of retards. You shouldn't be exempt from criticism just because you're a moderator. Calling TTA a retard shouldn't garner a harsher punishment than calling me a retard, unless we want to turn this port into Zdaemon.
There's a difference between criticism and flat out hostility. Guess which of the two you do? Hint: it's not the former.

Feel free to leave, but posting that the "staff is brainless" is objectively no different than TTA calling Edd brainless. Who are you (or anyone else) to decide who it's okay to insult and who it isn't?
Of course it is. Anyone who has been long term banned anywhere is not obligated to be respected until they earn it back.

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Re: Should Edd be unbanned from the forums?

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Post by Jenova » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:23 pm

Ru5tK1ng wrote:
Jenova wrote:
Ivan wrote:
Jenova wrote: *** Stuff Mobius said on irc ***
To be fair most of those are spot-on though.
I'm not disputing that, there's plenty of retards. You shouldn't be exempt from criticism just because you're a moderator. Calling TTA a retard shouldn't garner a harsher punishment than calling me a retard, unless we want to turn this port into Zdaemon.
There's a difference between criticism and flat out hostility. Guess which of the two you do? Hint: it's not the former.

Feel free to leave, but posting that the "staff is brainless" is objectively no different than TTA calling Edd brainless. Who are you (or anyone else) to decide who it's okay to insult and who it isn't?
Of course it is. Anyone who has been long term banned anywhere is not obligated to be respected until they earn it back.
Ah yes of course, and I'm sure telling someone they don't have a brain totally counts as the criticism, right? ???

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Re: Should Edd be unbanned from the forums?

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Post by Zakken » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:58 pm

Mobius wrote:
Jenova wrote:Please compare our post histories and get back to me on this one because I am confused...
With pleasure.

Jenova
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 20#p108155
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 20#p108162
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 20#p108167
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 20#p108170
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 84#p107879

Mobius
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 74#p108174
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 20#p108120
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 20#p108096
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 20#p108096
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 81#p108081
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 09#p108009


Not even admist the disputable posts I have in the short span of a week are we even similar.
This whole post history comparison seems like a dead end as far as arguments are concerned. I don't think the administration should make decisions retroactively, but only utilise them as reference material when handling new situations. Indeed, Jenova doesn't really help his own case when his MO is to basically satirise things he disagrees with, but apart from the "you did this and that back then, why aren't you banned yet?? fuck the admins" back-and-forth shit-slinging, I don't see much of a rule-breaking situation in this one thread.

On a side note, the comparison you've made isn't fair either. Almost all of Jenova's posts come from a single thread while you try to make yourself look good by spreading your links out across different threads that have little association with each other. If you want to be unbiased, you should've given Jenova the same treatment you gave yourself when comparing behaviours.
Mobius wrote:In a way you'll be impressed on how civil I am even when disagreeing with someone because, unlike you, I can articulate a point without the need to shitpost ironically and try to be funny.
You were anything but civil while arguing with me in the past until the staff decided to be more proactive in keeping members in line recently. I'm not trying to defend Jenova, but you yourself don't have grounds to say you're an exemplary member of the community; weren't you on post moderation for a good few weeks just recently?
Mobius wrote:Which one of us has sticky or notable threads?
How is this relevant?
Mobius wrote:Stick to spending 3k on your contributions.
So much for claiming to be civil one paragraph ago. This was very unnecessary.
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Re: Should Edd be unbanned from the forums?

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Post by Ænima » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:31 pm

just unban the fucker already jesus christ


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Re: Should Edd be unbanned from the forums?

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Post by Ru5tK1ng » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:37 pm

Jenova wrote:
Ru5tK1ng wrote:
Jenova wrote:
Ivan wrote:
To be fair most of those are spot-on though.
I'm not disputing that, there's plenty of retards. You shouldn't be exempt from criticism just because you're a moderator. Calling TTA a retard shouldn't garner a harsher punishment than calling me a retard, unless we want to turn this port into Zdaemon.
There's a difference between criticism and flat out hostility. Guess which of the two you do? Hint: it's not the former.

Feel free to leave, but posting that the "staff is brainless" is objectively no different than TTA calling Edd brainless. Who are you (or anyone else) to decide who it's okay to insult and who it isn't?
Of course it is. Anyone who has been long term banned anywhere is not obligated to be respected until they earn it back.
Ah yes of course, and I'm sure telling someone they don't have a brain totally counts as the criticism, right? ???
Oh so what you basically mean is that you are giving destructive criticism. Good to know.

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Re: Should Edd be unbanned from the forums?

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Post by Jenova » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:40 pm

Ru5tK1ng wrote:
Jenova wrote:
Ru5tK1ng wrote:
Jenova wrote:
I'm not disputing that, there's plenty of retards. You shouldn't be exempt from criticism just because you're a moderator. Calling TTA a retard shouldn't garner a harsher punishment than calling me a retard, unless we want to turn this port into Zdaemon.
There's a difference between criticism and flat out hostility. Guess which of the two you do? Hint: it's not the former.

Feel free to leave, but posting that the "staff is brainless" is objectively no different than TTA calling Edd brainless. Who are you (or anyone else) to decide who it's okay to insult and who it isn't?
Of course it is. Anyone who has been long term banned anywhere is not obligated to be respected until they earn it back.
Ah yes of course, and I'm sure telling someone they don't have a brain totally counts as the criticism, right? ???
Oh so what you basically mean is that you are giving destructive criticism. Good to know.
The Toxic Avenger wrote:https://zandronum.com/forum/search.php? ... 1&sr=posts
Who then evaded moderation with this: https://zandronum.com/forum/memberlist. ... ile&u=3328

Are you really sure you want to free this? Jen BTW I see through your dumb meme, nice try but unlike edd Decay has a brain!

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