Zandronum

Miruku wrote: I'm looking to improve my framerate (play with reduced slowdown on 1920 x 1080) on games like Fallout 3 and Oblivion.

Here are my computers stats:

Windows 8 (no improvement needed)

Sicamore wrote: AMD FX-4130 Quad Core Processor - 3.80 GHz

As an important side note, Intel pls. AMD is the worst, and don't tell me I'm a fanboy and don't know what I'm talking about. They can add 100 ghz to their models but their structure is craps. Video cards are the only thing keeping their chips afloat.

Anyways, that's not the problem because your AMD is powerful enough (and if you are using a store bought pc you have no control anyways), so I would bet on your gpu. It's a bottleneck to your system most definitely, being a low end series.

If you are looking for a good priced, same-size, powerful and quiet card but aren't afraid of switching to ATI, I would recommend the single slot 1 gb GDDR5 xfx hd 5770 - I had one and it ran battlefield 3 clean at 60 fps on high. It should run your games no problem. Oh, and it's also single slot as mentioned above, which means it takes up less space like your old one and the cooling is not worse as is commonly stated about powerful single slotters. You can also run three of these in your system with crossfire if you really want (and this could potentially work better since you have an AMD processor already. ATI cards and their mother AMD processor are rumored to pair better than an ATI and and intel).

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Sicamore wrote: and don't tell me I'm a fanboy and don't know what I'm talking about.

They can add 100 ghz to their models but their structure is craps.

Video cards are the only thing keeping their chips afloat.

I would bet on your gpu. It's a bottleneck to your system most definitely, being a low end series.

I would recommend the single slot 1 gb GDDR5 xfx hd 5770 - I had one and it ran battlefield 3 clean at 60 fps on high. It should run your games no problem.

Sicamore wrote: in 4 or 5 months as noone will buy or use it.

but I know for a fact it is because they are worse.

Released in 2011:

AMD A-Series A10-6800K @ 4.4 Ghz

Price now: $14997 + mail in rebate

Core i7 950 Nehalem @ 3.06

Sicamore wrote: The last processor I had was a Nehalem and it still runs better and handles more jobs than the FX-8350 WHICH WAS RELEASED IN 2012. I don't know who is setting these prices, but surely it's the people who make the last decision.

Sicamore wrote: First of all, 2009 is not ancient - it can still run many of today's games on max is not high settings without overclock. Second, we are discussing what is making his system performance worse. I just thought it was necessary to recommend a personal favorite of mine that seems within budget and could serve as a good companion, however the main question is NOT discussing cards. If we were discussing what card he should get or what card would be better for his system I would say no lower than GTX Titan because the question is so open ended.

Concerning AMD, I never said they can't deliver performance, all I said was that the chips they produce that are supposed to rival Intel models are funny. If you spend 300$ on an AMD, you just got ripped off, because that chip will fall drastically in price anyways in 4 or 5 months as noone will buy or use it. You might say this is because Intel gets people more interested, therefore noone tries out any AMD because of their slow reputation, but I know for a fact it is because they are worse. I've had 4 AMDs before and I can say the process handling is nothing short of shit. If you don't believe their fluctutation in the market, take a look at this:

Released in 2011:

AMD A-Series A10-6800K @ 4.4 Ghz

Price now: $14997 + mail in rebate

Released in 2009:

Core i7 950 Nehalem @ 3.06

Price now: over 250$ (If you can still find one, as they are discontinued)

The last processor I had was a Nehalem and it still runs better and handles more jobs than the FX-8350 WHICH WAS RELEASED IN 2012. I don't know who is setting these prices, but surely it's the people who make the last decision.

Hypnotoad wrote: I did it for the honour of AMD!

You may be right about the i7-950 being better for you; as is usually the case, that chip may be better at doing certain tasks (that you may do a lot), while the FX-8350 will be better at doing other tasks (that you may do less).

mr fiat wrote:
lol you realy do not know what you are talking about, the i7-950 is quite old and is slower then my i5-3350p, also i find it hillarious that you compare a then top of the line cpu to a current AMD midrange cpu, in fact the a10-6800k is fairly close to the i7-950 and it sells for about 3 to 4 times less.

katZune wrote: Get and nvidia 430 GTX its cheap and isn't bad FOR ZANDRONUM, but if you want something better, 670 ti, just a thing, ATI videocards (AMD) have problems with zandronum/Gzdoom (OGL), some videocard doesn't but they dont have the same performance like an nvidia (in zandronum/gzdoom)

katZune wrote: Get and nvidia 430 GTX its cheap and isn't bad FOR ZANDRONUM, but if you want something better, 670 ti, just a thing, ATI videocards (AMD) have problems with zandronum/Gzdoom (OGL), some videocard doesn't but they dont have the same performance like an nvidia (in zandronum/gzdoom)