Pretty much this. If you want to watch a show, feel free to. But don't go around bragging about how "good" your show is, because you're likely to be met by hate.HeavenWraith wrote: In all honesty, I don't see a problem with the show per se or people watching it, however it has come to my attention that some groups of people under the flag of "bronies" or anything of sort become overly aggressive and start acting inappropriately in certain situations (like once in a SNS), though that probably goes for any overly huge fanbase of a TV show or game. Nothing we can do about it, though I think I've already developed a bad prejudice regarding these groups.
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You should see the ZDoom forums.Dynamo wrote: personally have against bronies/furries/whoever is that I'm kind of sick of the reputation zandronum has ("the port of furries and bronies" and whatnot)
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RE: People who dislike 'Bronies' and 'Furries'
I was originally going to stay away from this topic, but now I'm going to give my 2 cents on bronies and furries.
First off, I don't have a problem with either furries or bronies. I regard free will as an absolute and people are damn well welcome to choose to do whatever they want within their own rights. This, however, also means that I am free to express my distaste with the choices of others: I am not required to like what anybody decides to do, say, or feel for any reason whatsoever. If I want to hate people who vote for others based on racial implications or undertones, I am entitled to. (I don't btw.) The rest of society, in contrast, is free to dislike me for my feelings or opinions on the issue. Now that being said....
Society and group dynamics play a massive role in what is socially acceptable. It is impossible to overstate the impact of social stigma on social issues. The acceptance of an issue or idea is relative to the mainstream opinion of that idea or issue. Therefore, mainstream values dictate how most people view these issues in spite of which side of the issue they are on. So in short, I view the detraction and propagation of bronies and furries as a response to the individual's placement in the mainstream viewpoint. In my opinion, people really like or hate something mostly based on how other people view it. If your friends like something you are probably more inclined to like it yourself, but you may also detract from it because your friends like it. Your social status as an outsider or conformist largely dictates how you feel about most things. (Hipsters are by far the largest example group of this theory.)
I personally view bronies and furries as detractors from the mainstream. I have no issue with this, because frankly I dislike the mainstream viewpoint most of the time as well. Their particular proclivities don't offend me because I just don't give a fuck what people do at home as long as they aren't breaking a law that threatens public safety. What pisses me off about them is when they decide to vehemently flame bait and flame under the guise of defending their position or taste. There is also a huge number of trolls who use the issue as cover as well, knowing full well what comes from the the use of either in particular contexts.
First off, I don't have a problem with either furries or bronies. I regard free will as an absolute and people are damn well welcome to choose to do whatever they want within their own rights. This, however, also means that I am free to express my distaste with the choices of others: I am not required to like what anybody decides to do, say, or feel for any reason whatsoever. If I want to hate people who vote for others based on racial implications or undertones, I am entitled to. (I don't btw.) The rest of society, in contrast, is free to dislike me for my feelings or opinions on the issue. Now that being said....
Society and group dynamics play a massive role in what is socially acceptable. It is impossible to overstate the impact of social stigma on social issues. The acceptance of an issue or idea is relative to the mainstream opinion of that idea or issue. Therefore, mainstream values dictate how most people view these issues in spite of which side of the issue they are on. So in short, I view the detraction and propagation of bronies and furries as a response to the individual's placement in the mainstream viewpoint. In my opinion, people really like or hate something mostly based on how other people view it. If your friends like something you are probably more inclined to like it yourself, but you may also detract from it because your friends like it. Your social status as an outsider or conformist largely dictates how you feel about most things. (Hipsters are by far the largest example group of this theory.)
I personally view bronies and furries as detractors from the mainstream. I have no issue with this, because frankly I dislike the mainstream viewpoint most of the time as well. Their particular proclivities don't offend me because I just don't give a fuck what people do at home as long as they aren't breaking a law that threatens public safety. What pisses me off about them is when they decide to vehemently flame bait and flame under the guise of defending their position or taste. There is also a huge number of trolls who use the issue as cover as well, knowing full well what comes from the the use of either in particular contexts.
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I really don't mind them even if there is a trillion of them until they start spamming those words and links to animals drawing that I have no freaking idea why people's brains categorize as "nice porn" and starts the party :|
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RE: People who dislike 'Bronies' and 'Furries'
Like what you want, but don't expect everyone else to like it. This is the fundamental problem I see most bronies here (and here specifically) having the most trouble understanding.
Just cool your jets if someone asks you to tone it down or stop spamming injokes and references if you fly off the handle about it. You know, like a reasonable person from any other fandom would (Homestuck, Harry Potter, Doctor Who etc.). It's not an excuse for you to pull the "love and tolerate" card and begin specifically rubbing it in the person's face (that's called "attention whoring") for simply being annoyed with you. Then that annoyance escalates to hatred because of your spite, and look what you've done. Then you wonder why that person doesn't like you anymore?
Just cool your jets if someone asks you to tone it down or stop spamming injokes and references if you fly off the handle about it. You know, like a reasonable person from any other fandom would (Homestuck, Harry Potter, Doctor Who etc.). It's not an excuse for you to pull the "love and tolerate" card and begin specifically rubbing it in the person's face (that's called "attention whoring") for simply being annoyed with you. Then that annoyance escalates to hatred because of your spite, and look what you've done. Then you wonder why that person doesn't like you anymore?
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I couldn't care less about the zdoom forums, these are the zandronum forums.Ænima wrote:You should see the ZDoom forums.Dynamo wrote: personally have against bronies/furries/whoever is that I'm kind of sick of the reputation zandronum has ("the port of furries and bronies" and whatnot)

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>7 splits
Rofl. Good job, let's make it eight
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Medicris' got it, like what you want, just don't be sad when people on servers get ticked off when you spam "HI EVERYPONY" or "hey! a pony! :3!!!!" binds.
Rofl. Good job, let's make it eight
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Medicris' got it, like what you want, just don't be sad when people on servers get ticked off when you spam "HI EVERYPONY" or "hey! a pony! :3!!!!" binds.
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RE: People who dislike 'Bronies' and 'Furries'
I don't really care about what people like or not. Want to have a pony avatar? Fine. A pony nickname? Fine. Your own pony thread to talk about pony stuff with pony fans? Fine too. The problem comes with that juvenile attitude of shoving down whatever is that they the like in other people's throats, like a little kid shows his new toy to his friends, and when you point that out they play the "I'm offended thus I have special rights" card.
I think it's cool if something (be it a TV Show, a movie, a book, whatever) incite people to draw their own fanart or write fanfiction -basically incite fans themselves to be artists- but they must know to keep that to the communities that it belongs to. I'm not saying to keep it hidden, as I said, it's fine if you're part of another community unrelated to that you like and you can have your own single thread to share stuff with other people that like the same as well, but don't flood that other community with it, because you're basically flamebaiting. This seems to be a mayor problem with bronies, Harry Potter fans, yaoi fangirls and pretty much any community that's rooted in anti-mainstream society values (notice that I said "anti-mainstream" and not "non-mainstream", Cracked illustrates this difference pretty well in this article). Sadly the stream of obnoxious and stupid people is interminable and we will always have to deal with them, it's part of the lack of civil culture.
I think it's cool if something (be it a TV Show, a movie, a book, whatever) incite people to draw their own fanart or write fanfiction -basically incite fans themselves to be artists- but they must know to keep that to the communities that it belongs to. I'm not saying to keep it hidden, as I said, it's fine if you're part of another community unrelated to that you like and you can have your own single thread to share stuff with other people that like the same as well, but don't flood that other community with it, because you're basically flamebaiting. This seems to be a mayor problem with bronies, Harry Potter fans, yaoi fangirls and pretty much any community that's rooted in anti-mainstream society values (notice that I said "anti-mainstream" and not "non-mainstream", Cracked illustrates this difference pretty well in this article). Sadly the stream of obnoxious and stupid people is interminable and we will always have to deal with them, it's part of the lack of civil culture.
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Yeah that sums it up pretty well.Totengott wrote:The problem comes with that juvenile attitude of shoving down whatever is that they the like in other people's throats, like a little kid shows his new toy to his friends, and when you point that out they play the "I'm offended thus I have special rights" card.
On a side note, I don't consider non-conformists to be a group per se. It's a lack of choice that separates them as opposed to a different one most of the time.
RE: People who dislike 'Bronies' and 'Furries'
Seeing as this thread is essentially blowing up (for good reasons), I may as well share my thoughts.
Like practically everyone else, I can fairly tolerate the fact that bronies and furries (along with almost any other community for the most part) appreciate what they love as is. However, it's when they display their love for it (publicly or even privately) waayy to much (ie r34, furry porn, everything they talk about is what they like/references to it, etc.) that pisses me the fuck off. One experience was when I added a random internet friend on my Facebook about a year ago. Back then he normally didn't talk too much about MLP (fairly tolerable), and whenever he didn't he was a pretty funny guy. It was until about 2 months ago that he became more annoying and all like"FAWKING CUM INSIDE RAINBOW DASH AND FUTASHY". I simply decided "meh, he's sorta okay now, ill just block some of what he posts from now on. About 1 week ago he practically flooded my news feed with stupid, meaningless posts along with shitloads of rule 34 crap. DAHS IT. UNFRIENDED.
And that is why i no longer tolerate fandom to the point of losing sense of reality and morality.
Like practically everyone else, I can fairly tolerate the fact that bronies and furries (along with almost any other community for the most part) appreciate what they love as is. However, it's when they display their love for it (publicly or even privately) waayy to much (ie r34, furry porn, everything they talk about is what they like/references to it, etc.) that pisses me the fuck off. One experience was when I added a random internet friend on my Facebook about a year ago. Back then he normally didn't talk too much about MLP (fairly tolerable), and whenever he didn't he was a pretty funny guy. It was until about 2 months ago that he became more annoying and all like"FAWKING CUM INSIDE RAINBOW DASH AND FUTASHY". I simply decided "meh, he's sorta okay now, ill just block some of what he posts from now on. About 1 week ago he practically flooded my news feed with stupid, meaningless posts along with shitloads of rule 34 crap. DAHS IT. UNFRIENDED.
And that is why i no longer tolerate fandom to the point of losing sense of reality and morality.
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RE: People who dislike 'Bronies' and 'Furries'
my hatred towards bronies is more personal than anything.
I had a really good friend all throughout high school who was kind of a geek that liked to play magic the gathering a lot, he was just a typical guy kind of shy didn't really chase after women.
I hooked him up with a friend of mine and he had it good for a long time then that show came out, he immediately latched onto it like some sort of deranged remora and started to talk about it non-stop, his girlfriend and a good friend of mine was a goth chick and while she was pretty tolerable about a lot of things got creeped out the way he was acting.
So they broke up and he couldn't understand why, soon the ponies became a gateway for him into circle jerk fantasies where he could feel loved by people who all shared the same interest.
Now I'll admit I didn't mind it so much, while he did talk about it a lot he was more troubled about losing his girlfriend which is understandable I watched a few episodes with him and it was alright In fact it was pretty good I'd say as far as a kids show goes (even though a lot of it is recycled plots from other shows)
But then the creepiness came first he bought a bunch of the figurines, and then finally made his own customized Pinkie pie T shirt, started printing off ponyized versions of his favorite magic the gathering cards (and playing in tournaments with them) and kept singing the songs randomly at work (we often worked night shifts together) one day I told him straight up that he was going to far with this pony crap and he just blew up in my face, blamed me for stealing his girlfriend and then damned me as a bad friend to him that was never there.
After that I stopped talking to him and now I'm sure he's still working that same job, still being a pony lover, and still never going to get another girlfriend unless she's also a deranged pony lover.
I had a really good friend all throughout high school who was kind of a geek that liked to play magic the gathering a lot, he was just a typical guy kind of shy didn't really chase after women.
I hooked him up with a friend of mine and he had it good for a long time then that show came out, he immediately latched onto it like some sort of deranged remora and started to talk about it non-stop, his girlfriend and a good friend of mine was a goth chick and while she was pretty tolerable about a lot of things got creeped out the way he was acting.
So they broke up and he couldn't understand why, soon the ponies became a gateway for him into circle jerk fantasies where he could feel loved by people who all shared the same interest.
Now I'll admit I didn't mind it so much, while he did talk about it a lot he was more troubled about losing his girlfriend which is understandable I watched a few episodes with him and it was alright In fact it was pretty good I'd say as far as a kids show goes (even though a lot of it is recycled plots from other shows)
But then the creepiness came first he bought a bunch of the figurines, and then finally made his own customized Pinkie pie T shirt, started printing off ponyized versions of his favorite magic the gathering cards (and playing in tournaments with them) and kept singing the songs randomly at work (we often worked night shifts together) one day I told him straight up that he was going to far with this pony crap and he just blew up in my face, blamed me for stealing his girlfriend and then damned me as a bad friend to him that was never there.
After that I stopped talking to him and now I'm sure he's still working that same job, still being a pony lover, and still never going to get another girlfriend unless she's also a deranged pony lover.
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RE: People who dislike 'Bronies' and 'Furries'
But but...Guys...Friendship is mag-*shot*
Honestly though, I don't really care. Just don't shove it in my face all the time and there shouldn't be a problem.
Honestly though, I don't really care. Just don't shove it in my face all the time and there shouldn't be a problem.
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RE: People who dislike 'Bronies' and 'Furries'
Pretty sure everyone here said what I feel. I honestly don't care what you like. I might be annoyed by it, but I won't care. Just don't expect me to like it, and don't expect me to not offend you if you do decide to flaunt it around, especially in a doom community such as this.
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RE: People who dislike 'Bronies' and 'Furries'
I think that the "old" men fad is not as applicable here considering that most of the community's under 25.
RE: People who dislike 'Bronies' and 'Furries'
Moral of the story: Everyone likes some kinky shit. Most people know to keep it to themselves.W1D3A55 wrote: Seeing as this thread is essentially blowing up (for good reasons), I may as well share my thoughts.
Like practically everyone else, I can fairly tolerate the fact that bronies and furries (along with almost any other community for the most part) appreciate what they love as is. However, it's when they display their love for it (publicly or even privately) waayy to much (ie r34, furry porn, everything they talk about is what they like/references to it, etc.) that pisses me the fuck off. One experience was when I added a random internet friend on my Facebook about a year ago. Back then he normally didn't talk too much about MLP (fairly tolerable), and whenever he didn't he was a pretty funny guy. It was until about 2 months ago that he became more annoying and all like"FAWKING CUM INSIDE RAINBOW DASH AND FUTASHY". I simply decided "meh, he's sorta okay now, ill just block some of what he posts from now on. About 1 week ago he practically flooded my news feed with stupid, meaningless posts along with shitloads of rule 34 crap. DAHS IT. UNFRIENDED.
And that is why i no longer tolerate fandom to the point of losing sense of reality and morality.
Some people... some people don't. And it's definitely not fandom-specific. .-.
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I'm a furry but you've never seen me say a single thing about it on this forum.
I really hate people who go out of their way to provoke people and show off their fandom, it annoys me. Same with "OMG 420 SMOKE WEED ERRYDAY OMG POT YES TOKE'N'PLAY" shit. Hypocrisy at it's best right there.
I really hate people who go out of their way to provoke people and show off their fandom, it annoys me. Same with "OMG 420 SMOKE WEED ERRYDAY OMG POT YES TOKE'N'PLAY" shit. Hypocrisy at it's best right there.
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+1Llewellyn wrote: I'm a furry but you've never seen me say a single thing about it on this forum.
Seriously. Everything in that quote applies to me as well.
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I specifically avoided having a furry avatar just because I knew it would attract undue attention on these forums. It's kind of obvious the a large part of the community is negatively biased towards certain groups. You probably did too, I guess it's a little thing called maturity... most of the stuff you guys are talking about is probably immature 15 year olds acting well... their age. (And I also love Commander Keen and iD made both so yea.)-Jes- wrote:+1Llewellyn wrote: I'm a furry but you've never seen me say a single thing about it on this forum.
Seriously. Everything in that quote applies to me as well.
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Though I can see a connection, that is not an analogous example. Ponys and Furries aren't herbal medicine that's been used for thousands upon thousands of years medicinally, recreationally and religiously-only to be banned in like, what, the last century?Llewellyn wrote: I'm a furry but you've never seen me say a single thing about it on this forum.
I really hate people who go out of their way to provoke people and show off their fandom, it annoys me. Same with "OMG 420 SMOKE WEED ERRYDAY OMG POT YES TOKE'N'PLAY" shit. Hypocrisy at it's best right there.
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I honestly don't see why I should dress up my account as a goddamned upholstered cat just because I find one deviant thing interesting, nor do I feel the need to announce my every whim to every other person on the board.Llewellyn wrote: - I guess it's a little thing called maturity... most of the stuff you guys are talking about is probably immature 15 year olds acting well... their age. (And I also love Commander Keen and iD made both so yea.)
Just because I like my women generously busty doesn't mean I should run around screaming "This shit needs more women with big chest areas" all the time, does it?!
So yeah, you could call that maturity if you'd like. I think personal restraint is more apt, as even immature people should be capable of such a thing.
And yet some people continue to make every post of theirs and every aspect of their account about the using it. Again, readStrych6 wrote: Though I can see a connection, that is not an analogous example.
Try BUF - there's dozens of users over there whose entire account is nothing that one big mouthpiece about ERMEGERD WEERD FER LEIF!!!!Llewellyn wrote:"OMG 420 SMOKE WEED ERRYDAY OMG POT YES TOKE'N'PLAY"
It's legalized in several US states now. Go toke already.
Making your account look like you're freakin' addicted isn't going to make the rest of us think "gee, maybe I too should take a stance and help legalize the stuff. I don't particularly care, but obviously this man has a valid point!". If anything, it achieves the exact opposite of that.
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