Any of you guys use windows XP?

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Post by Carpathia » Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:46 pm

If you're still using windows xp then you're asking for trouble. Windows 8 improves on xp and 7 in a lot of ways. Lower memory footprint, faster booting, better task manager, better file transfer details, better search functionality, iso mounting built into the os... It's just better in nearly every way. And metro just isn't as bad as people are making it out to be. In windows 8.0 it was bad, but now in 8.1 update 1 it's very usable and I find, more useful than the start menu.
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Post by ZZYZX » Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:21 pm

mr fiat wrote: its shocking how many people still use xp, is no one aware of the security issues?
It seems you're unaware of things like a non-Windows machine between your and the internet. For example, a router or legit Unix PC.

Also I've used XP once, but then bought a new videocard and found out that it's hard to get it running properly on XP.

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Post by Ruin » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:36 pm

Carpathia wrote: If you're still using windows xp then you're asking for trouble. Windows 8 improves on xp and 7 in a lot of ways. Lower memory footprint, faster booting, better task manager, better file transfer details, better search functionality, iso mounting built into the os... It's just better in nearly every way. And metro just isn't as bad as people are making it out to be. In windows 8.0 it was bad, but now in 8.1 update 1 it's very usable and I find, more useful than the start menu.
This. Though I disagree with the start menu notion. It is a pain in the ass to either right click the little desktop tile (or windows flag on the taskbar), or hit windows key + x to find the control panel/command prompt/powershell. I didn't find the metro UI to be that bad, though felt it should have stayed in RT as opposed to forcing it onto desktop computers as well. Though it can be avoided pretty much all together by going straight to desktop after boot. I only ever used the metro UI to find the MMC console or search for other admin tools. Despite that, I still use 7. I don't care for the charms buttons or how the computer settings are handled via the settings charms buttons (I know that you can access this stuff from the control panel as well), mousing over to the bottom left or right corner to get to said options is a nuisance.. I avoid using them as much as possible. Some things in 8 are harder to find.

I don't think 8 is better in every way. It isn't as bad as people make it out to be, but I understand why people don't like it. I personally don't mind it, but hopefully Microsoft listens and sees that a tablet interface and desktop computers don't really mix well. As it makes doing anything a little more involved out to be a hassle.
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RE: Any of you guys use windows XP?

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Post by The Toxic Avenger » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:41 pm

Carpathia wrote: iso mounting built into the os...
Whoa what?

I didn't think they'd actually implement that

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Post by Carpathia » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:59 pm

This is how you go about mounting an iso in windows 8. It's a very nice feature, especially for a device with no cd drive like my tablet. I hope microsoft don't remove metro in windows 9, but at least make it optional to keep the die hard start menu fans happy, as "CHANGE IS BAD WAEIGFNBHASEDWFWENPW"
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Post by kitteneater » Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:02 pm

what I herd windows 9 probably won't be called windows 9, but it will have DX12 built into it, this probably will be what windows 8 was supposed to be, bloody ballmer rushing shit like an idiot.

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Post by Espio » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:53 am

Carpathia wrote:but at least make it optional to keep the die hard start menu fans happy, as "CHANGE IS BAD WAEIGFNBHASEDWFWENPW"
Some sort of a good change is more than welcome in newer Windows verions... but don't essentially rid of what's been there since 1995 and make it confusing to properly navigate on a desktop than a tablet.

I shouldn't have to waste five minutes trying to find something I could've found in seconds with a simple Start menu.

It's nice people have been able to mod it in, but I'd rather see it back without the need of fellow Window users.
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Post by ledillman » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:27 am

I used Metro a couple of times and i hated it, that's why now i use Classic Shell and i love it :p

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Post by Dark-Assassin » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:01 am

This may be interesting to all you XP users.
http://www.zdnet.com/registry-hack-enab ... 000029851/
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Post by Tiger » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:37 am

Dark-Assassin wrote: This may be interesting to all you XP users.
http://www.zdnet.com/registry-hack-enab ... 000029851/
But, be warned - that you're doing it at your own risk.

kitteneater wrote: what I herd windows 9 probably won't be called windows 9, but it will have DX12 built into it, this probably will be what windows 8 was supposed to be, bloody ballmer rushing shit like an idiot.
Too much media -- rumors on the internet is not exactly news nor accurate.

Nati46 wrote: XP SP2, Too lazy to install new os... and I'm satisfied with what I have.
My laptop does have W7 tho
If you are not going to upgrade to a modern Operating System, - fine, but atleast update to Windows XP Service Pack 3.
Carpathia wrote:I hope microsoft don't remove metro in windows 9, but at least make it optional to keep the die hard start menu fans happy, as "CHANGE IS BAD WAEIGFNBHASEDWFWENPW"
Metro UI isn't going anywhere. But, however, the Start Menu will return to Windows. Though, probably not until Windows 9 [citation needed].


And for the rest of the readers: Reasons why the Start Menu was original changed: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011 ... -menu.aspx
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Post by Cruduxy » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:28 am

Carpathia wrote: This is how you go about mounting an iso in windows 8. It's a very nice feature, especially for a device with no cd drive like my tablet. I hope microsoft don't remove metro in windows 9, but at least make it optional to keep the die hard start menu fans happy, as "CHANGE IS BAD WAEIGFNBHASEDWFWENPW"
Well, win8 is heaven for tablets but can get irritating as hell for mouse\PCs. Tiger's link about "why the start menu needed replacement" kinda shows they knew it wasn't perfect and instead replaced it with an even more cluttery solution.

All bashing about the startmenu and metro remain goofy because just taking a glance at the "post your desktop" topic almost everyone keep their regular programs on the desktop itself.
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Post by kitteneater » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:19 pm

I swear one of the rules said no excessive quotes, oh well doesn't bother me, but ether way Its good to go into my old XP (used to be on 98) machine, surprised the thing still works.

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Post by mr fiat » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:08 pm

the only XP machine i still have is a 2003/2004 compaq pressario 900 laptop, its not connected to the internet tho for obvious reasons. i am holding onto it incase i need to use for whatever reason a floppy drive or run a application that requires XP but refuses to work on virtualmachine.

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Post by Tiger » Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:03 pm

kitteneater wrote: I swear one of the rules said no excessive quotes
Feel free to report my post(s) or take your complaints to #Staff on IRC.
kitteneater wrote:but ether way Its good to go into my old XP (used to be on 98) machine, surprised the thing still works.
Enjoy your zero-day's and every other security issue that Windows XP has in store.

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Post by Oddbrother » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:21 pm

I have a multi-boot system between 8.1 x64 and XP x86.

I've been neglecting booting into XP for months on end now, but I'm too lazy to remove it either. :P

Tell me this. Would having multiple operating systems, each with different architectures, on the same computer heighten security issues?

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Post by Slim » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:32 pm

I'm stuck on XP SP3 until I can get a graphics card for another rig I have laying around that can use Windows 7, so single core dinosaur for a bit longer I guess. :(
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Post by ibm5155 » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:53 pm

well, my pentium 3 1GHz worked fine with windows 7, it had 384mb of ram, and ofc 1gb would be welcome
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Post by Tiger » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:16 am

Oddbrother wrote: Tell me this. Would having multiple operating systems, each with different architectures, on the same computer heighten security issues?
Can elaborate a bit further? Do you mean just having the partitions in general or when the OS is active?

Generally, as long as the other OS's are on another partition, it doesn't matter -- if one OS from DISK 0 PART 1 gets hits with a horrid malware, the other OS from DISK 0 PART 2 will be untouched from the malware. That is unless you pick up some really bad virus\malware that corrupts or destroys the MBR, but in this case - recovering the MBR damage is possible.

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Post by Miruku » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:49 pm

I used to use XP a while ago... before 2010, I think?
I had to put up with Vista for way too long - before Q3 2013, when I upgraded to 8. Heck, I don't even use Classic Shell or the like, I have shortcuts to my stuff on the start screen and it's like nothing happened.
kitteneater wrote: what I herd windows 9 probably won't be called windows 9, but it will have DX12 built into it, this probably will be what windows 8 was supposed to be, bloody ballmer rushing shit like an idiot.
At least it won't be called something as uncreative and ballsy as "Windows 9".
Carpathia wrote: This is how you go about mounting an iso in windows 8. It's a very nice feature, especially for a device with no cd drive like my tablet.
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