Regarding the quality of administration
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:19 pm
Hey I'm from /vr/ and I thought I'd chime in.
I thought I'd start this topic to discuss the actions of recent administrations in handing out what they believe are fair punishments. Right off the bat, it seems to me that the administration on this forum does a relatively poor job of policing the users to minimize drama and harassment. Instead, it seems almost as if a select few admins actually feed off of the drama and enjoy locking topics and splitting posts only when it fits their agenda.
The fact that it took nine pages to get a reasonable on-topic response by an administrator just shows how poor of a job they're doing. There are actually quite a few examples of garbage posts in that topic that did nothing but drag in others to cause more drama, or generally just dismiss opinions/shit on others. These posts were obviously not split and users were probably not warned. Seriously, why even bother posting things like "TRIGGERED?" or bring unrelated people into the drama? I posted my opinion that there would be no loss if Jenova were to kill himself and I wasn't even warned for doing that. Obviously I don't actually believe this, but I just wanted to see what would happen if I did in fact make such a post.
This whole issue from my understanding stemmed from the administration's inaction to deliver justice in the irc channel #zandronum after some drama involving two problem players in the community. Perhaps the administrators should evaluate why some admins didn't take action until it was brought to attention by a third party? Obviously nobody is perfect, but I think this topic is a perfect example that showcases that the administrators simply don't care unless someone who they dislike posts: https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=7443
Read the above topic and it becomes extremely clear that nobody really cares if you have a bunch of people agreeing with you. Why does 4chan drama belong here? If the admins hate drama so much, why didn't they simply lock this topic in the first five minutes instead of posting and adding fuel to the fire? Instead, a Zandronum administrator posts and enables this type of behavior within the first 5 minutes, then Mifu posts "Proofs that it is actually one_two or I am going to be disappoint and will start deploying memes in T-10". Who cares about proof? This topic does nothing but cause problems for both parties involved. It took Fused, the newest administrator to lock the topic. I seriously thought Jenova was just overreacting and acting like a child, which he is, but after reading the forums for all of 30 minutes it became pretty clear to me that his concerns aren't completely baseless.
After that topic was made I actually looked through quite a few user's posting history. It seems that the majority of people in that topic who are advocates for "stop being so sensitive" also do nothing but harass users and blame thin skin when they retaliate. This type of behavior reflects extremely poorly on the staff and gives the impression that they don't care about the users. Instead, I'd like to have a conversation on why they think this type of behavior is acceptable. If they decide that taunting users and trash talk is fine, then that's okay too. There just needs to be definitive rules, not this wishy-washy "we don't do anything until someone asks us" attitude that they seem to have.
I thought I'd start this topic to discuss the actions of recent administrations in handing out what they believe are fair punishments. Right off the bat, it seems to me that the administration on this forum does a relatively poor job of policing the users to minimize drama and harassment. Instead, it seems almost as if a select few admins actually feed off of the drama and enjoy locking topics and splitting posts only when it fits their agenda.
The fact that it took nine pages to get a reasonable on-topic response by an administrator just shows how poor of a job they're doing. There are actually quite a few examples of garbage posts in that topic that did nothing but drag in others to cause more drama, or generally just dismiss opinions/shit on others. These posts were obviously not split and users were probably not warned. Seriously, why even bother posting things like "TRIGGERED?" or bring unrelated people into the drama? I posted my opinion that there would be no loss if Jenova were to kill himself and I wasn't even warned for doing that. Obviously I don't actually believe this, but I just wanted to see what would happen if I did in fact make such a post.
This whole issue from my understanding stemmed from the administration's inaction to deliver justice in the irc channel #zandronum after some drama involving two problem players in the community. Perhaps the administrators should evaluate why some admins didn't take action until it was brought to attention by a third party? Obviously nobody is perfect, but I think this topic is a perfect example that showcases that the administrators simply don't care unless someone who they dislike posts: https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=7443
Read the above topic and it becomes extremely clear that nobody really cares if you have a bunch of people agreeing with you. Why does 4chan drama belong here? If the admins hate drama so much, why didn't they simply lock this topic in the first five minutes instead of posting and adding fuel to the fire? Instead, a Zandronum administrator posts and enables this type of behavior within the first 5 minutes, then Mifu posts "Proofs that it is actually one_two or I am going to be disappoint and will start deploying memes in T-10". Who cares about proof? This topic does nothing but cause problems for both parties involved. It took Fused, the newest administrator to lock the topic. I seriously thought Jenova was just overreacting and acting like a child, which he is, but after reading the forums for all of 30 minutes it became pretty clear to me that his concerns aren't completely baseless.
After that topic was made I actually looked through quite a few user's posting history. It seems that the majority of people in that topic who are advocates for "stop being so sensitive" also do nothing but harass users and blame thin skin when they retaliate. This type of behavior reflects extremely poorly on the staff and gives the impression that they don't care about the users. Instead, I'd like to have a conversation on why they think this type of behavior is acceptable. If they decide that taunting users and trash talk is fine, then that's okay too. There just needs to be definitive rules, not this wishy-washy "we don't do anything until someone asks us" attitude that they seem to have.