SwordGrunt wrote:The funniest thing here, though, is that "getting the staff to do what he wants" is in truth "getting the staff to take action".
The staff has taken action multiple times and things have changed dramatically over the past few years. Don't bring up things you don't have the sightest clue about.
SwordGrunt wrote:Despite the constant derailing from the subject, there was shit tossing between Avc and Mobius
What does this have to do with best ever? Nothing. Even so, Jenova was just as guilty of the shit tossing with AVC as the logs proved, except Mobius was banned for it (by the same moderator that jenova accused of sheltering mobius, even) while Jenova was not punished. Did you even read the thread?
SwordGrunt wrote:(could've been someone else, but Jenova has shown multiple times he has the balls to stand up and get shit to hit the fan).
I agree that it takes a lot of balls and probably a bit of naivety to start massive circlejerks and flamewars in an attempt to disrupt the community for a stupid vendetta, but that doesn't make what he did any smarter.
As for Mobius, as I said already I'm not strictly defending him (you can ask him and he can confirm that we barely interact for the most part), except at least Mobius isn't painting himself to be the good guy unlike Jenova
<Jenova> but hey
<Jenova> apparently im the evil dude
(among others I don't care enough to dig up right about now)
SwordGrunt wrote:Jenova isn't planning some magic mindgame by shutting down BE
Well whatever it is that he was planning he kind of blew his chance. Nobody asked him to keep BE online that I can tell so if he wants to close it that's certainly not gonna receive opposition from anybody. His call.
SwordGrunt wrote:he's literally just tired of having to see this shit happen over and over and receive "we'll give harsher punishment next time" as an answer, only there have been several "next times" already.
He is not a moderator, despite the fact that he tried his hardest to become one. For one thing, I've been in zandronum for so many years and I still play almost daily, yet I almost never ended up getting caught in any drama or shit slinging by anybody. If I did that surely Jenova could've achieved the same if he was so frustrated by it. If you knew the actual logs and the actual history you would know that Jenova is even more guilty than Mobius of starting up hostilities for senseless reasons. That said, I'm not the best person to talk about this matter as I'm not involved with dramas of any kind (except this one I guess).
SwordGrunt wrote:Why would you waste time and money on something
Again. If you don't want to, don't. End of story.
SwordGrunt wrote:people who consider themselves "positive contributors" by "making maps, mods and getting cacos" while simultaneously enjoying shitting on others' heads, digging up old stuff from other people to make them look less bad in situations like this?
If you had read the actual logs and knew the actual backstories, you would be perfectly aware that everybody that Decay and other people have shit on were no saints themselves and in fact were arguably much worse (capodecima, Galactus, Luke, and a ton of other people that almost everybody is glad are gone or almost gone).
You want to know why you are saying what you're saying? Why people repeat this charade of "people are being shit on by the evil A3!" (even though as Jenova himself said it's not really A3 that's the problem). Because of rumors. Because people see a bunch of posts with rude words, hear someone else who has a vendetta against these people talk about how evil they are, and they are led to believe that to be the case, without knowing any of the backstory behind anything, without doing proper research, because that's what most people do. And that's what you are doing right now. You are clueless, you are only speculating and your post sums up perfectly that you don't know much about the situation.
So I'm just glad a lot of people are not like that and it's not clueless people who make the decisions.