ZZYZX wrote:Also scroton's suggestion is the reverse of what Jenova did: punish all clans and all players in them for what one person does, as opposed to punishing clanless players for what staff member did. Both are equally stupid.
My proposal does not seek to punish clan members; it's a measured, reasonable set of guidelines to promote a positive user experience for all forum members. While most clan members will best fit into this new paradigm by being grouped with other clan members in their own special clan subforum, the pass mentioned in my proposal revision allows for the infrequent clan member that can constructively contribute to the larger community to post in the larger community (with moderator approval for all posts, of course.)
ZZYZX wrote:I'm sorry... what? So if I want to make a team to play with my friends, or join another team for the same reason, it's a poor life choice?
If any of those desires lead to you joining a clan, then yes.
ZZYZX wrote:Wait, actually, do you play AOW? I know a lot of people from competitive clans will go troll to AOW simply because they don't even care about it :P
I have never played All Out War. While I dabble a bit in modding, most of the time when I play online I play with more "vanilla-ish" mods.
Samurai wrote:You have a really unhealthy obsession with clans.
I have seldom paid much attention to clans. My posts in this thread are the first posts I have made which concern clans in any capacity.
Samurai wrote:Basically your theory seems to dive down to 'all people who are in a clan, or who have ever been in a clan should be banned from Zandrounum'.
My proposal does not include banning such individuals from the Zandronum forums, merely restricting their posting to the proposed clan subforums. Depending upon how the proposed Clan Moderation Team decides to moderate the subforums, they may find that moderation is less lenient and thus they would in fact be less likely to be banned, rather than as you suggest.
As for the rest of the non clan forums, clan members would be free to read as much of the non clan sections as they would like and, as per my proposal revision, petition for a pass to post (with moderator approval) in the non clan forums.
Samurai wrote:Because I decided to wear a little tag infront of my alias, does that mean I'm going to suddenly act like a dick to people, where as if without having a clan tag I would be nice to everyone.
I agree with you in theory, but real-world observations lead even the casual observer to a conclusion of "yes." I am uncertain of the cause for the discrepancy.