esselfortium wrote: There's nothing wrong with clans, but the forum for them on ST was rarely by any definition "competitive" or otherwise remotely meaningful or worthwhile. Announcing "I have a new clan!" and getting a page or two of "Good luck lol!" responses is utterly pointless.
Sparr0w wrote: Lol still the point is that the competive community wants one. So I dont see the point in not having one...If staff doesnt want to mess with the competivre side than just get some more competive mods. Im sure there are alot of people willing to be a mod of a clan section :)
However, you can boil it down further, Essel and Decay. You don't need forums for Zandronium, but I, you, the players and the developers want them as people can communicate on them for numerous different reasons and alpha, beta and full versions of Zandronium can easily be distributed, along with other player-developed projects. Again, we don't need Zandronium at all, but we want it as it provides entertainment for those who play it. So please tell me, can you not see the point that I, Sparr0w and countless others are trying to make? We all want a clan section as then clan leaders can provide information regarding their clans and the recent activity within them.Decay wrote:Essel is quite right. Why don't you sit down and actually think about it. Really, you don't need a clan thread because if there are any clan challenges, those can be easily posted in the tournament section, along with clan line ups.Sparr0w wrote:esselfortium wrote: There's nothing wrong with clans, but the forum for them on ST was rarely by any definition "competitive" or otherwise remotely meaningful or worthwhile. Announcing "I have a new clan!" and getting a page or two of "Good luck lol!" responses is utterly pointless.
coming from a non competive player.
So how do you propose we look for new clans in this "new" port?
I still don't really understand. You want it because you do, so it should therefore exist?Devon wrote:Sparr0w wrote: Lol still the point is that the competive community wants one. So I dont see the point in not having one...If staff doesnt want to mess with the competivre side than just get some more competive mods. Im sure there are alot of people willing to be a mod of a clan section :)However, you can boil it down further, Essel and Decay. You don't need forums for Zandronium, but I, you, the players and the developers want them as people can communicate on them for numerous different reasons and alpha, beta and full versions of Zandronium can easily be distributed, along with other player-developed projects. Again, we don't need Zandronium at all, but we want it as it provides entertainment for those who play it. So please tell me, can you not see the point that I, Sparr0w and countless others are trying to make? We all want a clan section as then clan leaders can provide information regarding their clans and the recent activity within them.Decay wrote:Essel is quite right. Why don't you sit down and actually think about it. Really, you don't need a clan thread because if there are any clan challenges, those can be easily posted in the tournament section, along with clan line ups.Sparr0w wrote:esselfortium wrote: There's nothing wrong with clans, but the forum for them on ST was rarely by any definition "competitive" or otherwise remotely meaningful or worthwhile. Announcing "I have a new clan!" and getting a page or two of "Good luck lol!" responses is utterly pointless.
coming from a non competive player.
So how do you propose we look for new clans in this "new" port?
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Not just him... Why not let the public vote on it if you think no one wants it? It'd pretty much halt the argument.esselfortium wrote: I still don't really understand. You want it because you do, so it should therefore exist?
No, because it helps clan leaders show information regarding their rosters, contact and recruitment details, plus additional information, about their clans. No offense meant here, but it is easier to understand my (and many others') points of view if you too were on the competitive scene. Please admins, it's no big deal just to add a clan section to the forums, and it'll shut a lot of us up.esselfortium wrote: I still don't really understand. You want it because you do, so it should therefore exist?
It does help with discussing how to contact people such as where the irc channel is and what the member list is, what type of clan it is and so on.Also it's good to know how to understand it aswell so there is no confusion of whats going on here and thereDevon wrote:No, because it helps clan leaders show information regarding their rosters, contact and recruitment details, plus additional information, about their clans. No offense meant here, but it is easier to understand my (and many others') points of view if you too were on the competitive scene. Please admins, it's no big deal just to add a clan section to the forums, and it'll shut a lot of us up.esselfortium wrote: I still don't really understand. You want it because you do, so it should therefore exist?
[/spoiler]What's so hard to understand ? People basically demand something that existed long ago to be put here. It's natural and necessary.esselfortium wrote:I still don't really understand. You want it because you do, so it should therefore exist?Devon wrote:Sparr0w wrote: Lol still the point is that the competive community wants one. So I dont see the point in not having one...If staff doesnt want to mess with the competivre side than just get some more competive mods. Im sure there are alot of people willing to be a mod of a clan section :)However, you can boil it down further, Essel and Decay. You don't need forums for Zandronium, but I, you, the players and the developers want them as people can communicate on them for numerous different reasons and alpha, beta and full versions of Zandronium can easily be distributed, along with other player-developed projects. Again, we don't need Zandronium at all, but we want it as it provides entertainment for those who play it. So please tell me, can you not see the point that I, Sparr0w and countless others are trying to make? We all want a clan section as then clan leaders can provide information regarding their clans and the recent activity within them.Decay wrote:Essel is quite right. Why don't you sit down and actually think about it. Really, you don't need a clan thread because if there are any clan challenges, those can be easily posted in the tournament section, along with clan line ups.Sparr0w wrote:
coming from a non competive player.
So how do you propose we look for new clans in this "new" port?
[/spoiler]Indeed. Essel's thought process also coincides with ours when we decided to neglect the inclusion of the forum. We didn't see the necessity when it only baited two possible outcomes (Thread closure and gl spam). We were hoping that clans that will step into the fray of the competitive scene will initiate challenges on those they find in the game, and these other "mapping" clans will come out and release their projects to help bolster the activity of the scene instead of centralizing it.Decay wrote: Essel is quite right. Why don't you sit down and actually think about it. Really, you don't need a clan thread because if there are any clan challenges, those can be easily posted in the tournament section, along with clan line ups.
This is the best solution proposed thus far and we may move with this set up.Decay wrote: The only compromise solution/suggestion I can come up with is a clan "section" but the topics get 1 post; the first post. This acts as the desired "status update" for clans (ie letting people know who's in, purpose, where to be reached, etc), but also prevents threads filled with pointless "good lucks", dumb pictures, flames/trolling/drama whatever. Beyond, I can't really think of a legit reason for the admins to allow to continue the garbage that went on at ST.
I agree, this way we would know who's in who's roster and who's playing for who, right.Decay wrote: The only compromise solution/suggestion I can come up with is a clan "section" but the topics get 1 post; the first post. This acts as the desired "status update" for clans (ie letting people know who's in, purpose, where to be reached, etc), but also prevents threads filled with pointless "good lucks", dumb pictures, flames/trolling/drama whatever. Beyond, I can't really think of a legit reason for the admins to allow to continue the garbage that went on at ST.
With useless comments like that you're only reinforcing our point. If you have to resort to attacking us with false information why should we bother taking your feedback into account?Spider wrote:after all you are not listening to the community and that always makes troubles at times...
Well because basically most of the things have been said already, but if you want me to base it, okay so everyone here wants a Clan Section, while I know there were some pointless posts and dramas on the old skulltag forum it is always important to come up and inform people about their clans, projects, competition, then archieves will keep tracks of old clans that have died If anyone want to go back and educate theirselves about them.Zap610 wrote:With useless comments like that you're only reinforcing our point. If you have to resort to attacking us with false information why should we bother taking your feedback into account?Spider wrote:after all you are not listening to the community and that always makes troubles at times...
Seconded. Although it just occurred to me, hypothetically if that did happen, how would moderators go about pruning dead clan threads? Not that the old method of spamming "And are YOU alive?" in every thread was particularly elegant either....Decay wrote: The only compromise solution/suggestion I can come up with is a clan "section" but the topics get 1 post; the first post. This acts as the desired "status update" for clans (ie letting people know who's in, purpose, where to be reached, etc), but also prevents threads filled with pointless "good lucks", dumb pictures, flames/trolling/drama whatever. Beyond, I can't really think of a legit reason for the admins to allow to continue the garbage that went on at ST.
