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Post by Hypnotoad » Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:14 pm

esselfortium wrote: It's three lengthy, obscure words that mean absolutely nothing combined.
It's only 3 syllables, and only 1 letter more than skulltag. As far as I understand it, it was combined from 2 names lots of people wanted (infernum, meaning hell, and Andromeda), plus a z for zdoom. So it's not completely arbitrary; it combines 2 major themes of this port, space and hell (doom).

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Post by Tribeam » Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:23 pm

It means Zdoom Space Hell

Zdoom + Andromeda + infurnum = Zandronum

Simple as that

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Post by esselfortium » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:46 pm

None of those words or their meanings are even slightly apparent in the combined name, though. It's like if Skulltag had been named by combining Skeletal and Runaround to explain the gamemode as Skeleround. The significance is completely lost because of how much the words are mashed up.

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Post by infurnus » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:55 pm

esselfortium wrote: Skeleround
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Post by Igor » Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:39 pm

IGOR THINK STARTAN3 WOULD BE BETTER NAME THAN SKELEROUND

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Post by esselfortium » Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:40 pm

Essel think Igor stole idea for Startan3

But Essel still agree on Startan3 for name

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Post by Zap610 » Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:44 pm

If it means people will stop yelling at us I'm all for it!

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Post by esselfortium » Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:47 pm

And people can even keep abbreviating it as ST!

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Post by infurnus » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:40 am

Ok guys, I hear you.

I was thinking, if needed, there could be a relationship with the "fancy name" and the development name like what Google Chrome has with Chromium.
We could refer to Zandronum as "Zandronum Engine" or such, like I heard some suggest on IRC. Just throwing out ideas.

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Post by Dark-Assassin » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:48 am

So people want this texture for a name?

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I myself am not sure on it. But also same with Zandronum.
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Post by esselfortium » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:57 pm

Startan3 is short, it's techy, it's a more direct Doom reference than Zandronum, it sounds like "spartan" which is appropriate for DM, and you can abbreviate it as "ST". It also refers to space and the color brown, which are the two doomiest things possible.
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Post by Moti » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:52 pm

I still don't even know how to pronounce this name.

I dunno guys, this is gonna take me a while to get used to..

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RE: Thoughts on the name

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Post by Medicris » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:27 pm

Moti wrote: I still don't even know how to pronounce this name.

I dunno guys, this is gonna take me a while to get used to..
Lol what.

ZAN-droh-numm.

Sounds perfectly natural to me, especially now that I know its intended meaning.

Though if the z is just for zdoom, then I suggest it be stylized as zAndronum.

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Post by Devon » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:46 pm

I don't like the name to be honest, can't we just keep it as skulltag?
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Post by Medicris » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:11 pm

No, since Carn owns the Skilltag name and because of this all ST exclusive content is not bundled with Zandronum at the moment, but there is a backwards compatibility package available to play wads reliant on ST content for the time being.

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Post by Zeberpal » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:36 pm

If only i knew about this site week ago and if i knew that Zandronum will be claimed as SKulltag's disciple..It's just doesn't make sence to me still how you guys have choosen this name .Yes, you can keep ignore and muting for name drama on irc, but will you win on that in the end?
You may think i'm stupid or retard, though there are people've been saying that title sounds extremely confusing and hard pronouncable and i'm agree with them. For foreign persons expecially.
Infernum and [strike]Afterlife[/strike], what was wrong with these.. Infernum even fits with heretic/hexen/strife theme. And logo.. Skulltag had some neutral font, this one is pure sci-fi (sorry Infurnus once again).
That's made me sad.
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Post by Cennou » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:52 pm

Seriously, the name? you could of thought of something better
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RE: Thoughts on the name

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Post by AlexMax » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:20 pm

Not going to lie, Zandronum is a pretty mediocre name at first glance.

However, the only better names I heard during naming discussions, both in this thread and before the fork was made public, were "Infernum" and "Altdeath". And honestly, I think that with the name already picked out and the domains bought, it's not worth going through yet another "woah what is happening" just to switch to another name that people will still doubtlessly complain about.

When it all comes down to it, complaining about the name is just bikeshedding...in other words it's not even close to the most important thing about the project, but it is an easy thing to have an opinion about, so people do. If the name bothers you, just call it "Zan" or "Zand" or "Zandro" or whatever.

EDIT: It's probably also worth mentioning that not everybody was a fan of "Odamex" at first either.
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RE: Thoughts on the name

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Post by Twister » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:38 pm

I have a few thoughts, all of which may get rejected at one point or another

ZTag, (sounds too much like SkullTag)

Twister, (Automatically denied)

Tei Tenga, (Nah... but keeping all ideas in this post)

Doomsicle, (For the lulz)

GLoom, (Maybe...)

Alpha, (I could see many cool designs with this name)

Eclipse, (Worth a try)

Cobalt, (It's blue... that is all)

Owens Corning Fiberglass Insulation, (Trolololl)

ZBone, (Maybe...)

Future Doom, (Kinda cheesy, and probably the name of a WAD)

NeoTag, (sounds too much like SkullTag)

Spine, (Meh...)

Rebirth, (Another though)

Twister, (Gonna give it one more shot)

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RE: Thoughts on the name

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Post by Avi » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:40 pm

Being the type to intentionally learn a bunch of languages for no real reason, I can say that Zandronum (is that how it's.. holy shit, got it right the first try lol) is definitely a convoluted name. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I can see where the "Hell in Outerspace version of Zdoom" can he a fuck-ton to say to your friends when you're trying to convince them to try out something oldschool.

So, in a nutshell, I like the logic behind Startan3. My vote's for Essel's name choice. (Even though it's kind of official now that it's registered as a domain and everything.) But regardless of the name, I'm fuckin' pumped for this.

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