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redux from my old post where i wanted to implement more classes in samsara by just transferring the contents from other mods,and given how much.."helpful" the wiki is in this regard,i tried to do by myself,by simply mimicking the files of other classes,trying to add the "Cyclone" class from the game of the same name.

i already added the sprites and other graphic and SUPPOSEDLY put in the right place,and assigned the various txt files to point at that folder.i haven't assigned sounds and other minutia yet because...

when i start the game,the class is simply not there on the classes list on the main menu.

what did i do wrong?

i used this samsara-ex file as it has the latest additions,and i thought it would be have been good to just add mine to those

find attached the file i used to modify

https://mega.nz/#!Klgy1BwJ

Did you define the playerclass in KEYCONF?

http://zdoom.org/wiki/Creating_new_player_classes

Also, did you get permission to use class? Ask the original creator to avoid being slapped by multiple people later.

Ænima wrote:Did you define the playerclass in KEYCONF?

http://zdoom.org/wiki/Creating_new_player_classes

thanks that did worked!now i have to sort out how to set the pickups.since i don't plan to put a custom status bar,i can just leave those fields as they are,right?

"Also, did you get permission to use class? Ask the original creator to avoid being slapped by multiple people later."

i am doing it as an experiment for a single player only,no balancing-related,personal use only

EDIT:i mamaged to add weapons,effect etc.,.but not sounds.and i can't understand for the life of me what i have to do.i have created the folder sounds\cyclone\ with all the sounds i need on it.but apparently i need to specify those on a sndinfo file...but which file directs\manage these sndinfo files?

Check the file you're copying for the SNDINFO(.txt) file, the relevant sounds are probably there.

The wiki is really helpful by the way, but it kind of goes against what you're doing (copying instead of creating) so obviously it won't teach you how to do that step-by-step.

Sounds are defined in SNDINFO by specifying their sound name followed by their filename (e.g. grunt/active dsposact, baron/sight dsbrssit)

problem is that the sndinfo i want to copy are just generic files without any specifications,scattered with various lines like this
and that's it,no name,no character,no folder,nothing.



again i have created a folder following the same reasoning of the other character,but can't find any info on where i have to specify the paths.in the attached (other than the screenshot of said sndinfo file)file you'll see that i TRIED doing something (called sndinfo.cyc)but it won't work at all



https://mega.nz/#!nphESJjL

These lines are defining the name SND2826 to the sound file named SND2826, nothing else. If they're in a folder, it's the sounds folder (if using a pk3) and no path needs to be specified as that is the default place to look for sounds in a pk3.

Note that files in a pk3's head directory MUST have an extension, I'm pretty sure that SNDINFO with no extension won't be recognized (in any case, it's best to give it a unique extension like the ones at the top of your list have)

SwordGrunt wrote:These lines are defining the name SND2826 to the sound file named SND2826, nothing else. If they're in a folder, it's the sounds folder (if using a pk3) and no path needs to be specified as that is the default place to look for sounds in a pk3.

Note that files in a pk3's head directory MUST have an extension, I'm pretty sure that SNDINFO with no extension won't be recognized (in any case, it's best to give it a unique extension like the ones at the top of your list have)

i grasped the concept,but for some reasons i still have no sound.i'm trying just with the gun (which is called CYCLONEPISTOL)and as you can see from the pic i tried every possible i can think of,still no sound.

the wav files are inside sounds\cyclone.that's it,no subfolder or anything

SwordGrunt wrote: Note that files in a pk3's head directory MUST have an extension, I'm pretty sure that SNDINFO with no extension won't be recognized (in any case, it's best to give it a unique extension like the ones at the top of your list have)

ZDoom doesn't care whether it has an extension or not, as long as it's called "SNDINFO" and is valid syntax it'll work.

Sean wrote:

SwordGrunt wrote: Note that files in a pk3's head directory MUST have an extension, I'm pretty sure that SNDINFO with no extension won't be recognized (in any case, it's best to give it a unique extension like the ones at the top of your list have)

ZDoom doesn't care whether it has an extension or not, as long as it's called "SNDINFO" and is valid syntax it'll work.

Ah I see, I knew SNDINFO could have any extension but I thought maybe it wasn't being recognized for having no extension in the PK3's main folder. Then that's not the issue here.

You should doublecheck the sounds being played to make sure they're the ones defined.

SwordGrunt wrote:

Sean wrote:

SwordGrunt wrote: Note that files in a pk3's head directory MUST have an extension, I'm pretty sure that SNDINFO with no extension won't be recognized (in any case, it's best to give it a unique extension like the ones at the top of your list have)

ZDoom doesn't care whether it has an extension or not, as long as it's called "SNDINFO" and is valid syntax it'll work.

Ah I see, I knew SNDINFO could have any extension but I thought maybe it wasn't being recognized for having no extension in the PK3's main folder. Then that's not the issue here.

You should doublecheck the sounds being played to make sure they're the ones defined.

the sounds in slade works fine,i can hear them no problem.if that's was what you were asking

Solstar wrote:

SwordGrunt wrote:

Sean wrote:

SwordGrunt wrote: Note that files in a pk3's head directory MUST have an extension, I'm pretty sure that SNDINFO with no extension won't be recognized (in any case, it's best to give it a unique extension like the ones at the top of your list have)

ZDoom doesn't care whether it has an extension or not, as long as it's called "SNDINFO" and is valid syntax it'll work.

Ah I see, I knew SNDINFO could have any extension but I thought maybe it wasn't being recognized for having no extension in the PK3's main folder. Then that's not the issue here.

You should doublecheck the sounds being played to make sure they're the ones defined.

the sounds in slade works fine,i can hear them no problem.if that's was what you were asking

No I meant check the filenames so that they match the ones defined in SNDINFO. If they do, and you are using the names defined for these sounds, there's no reason why they wouldn't play.

SwordGrunt wrote:

Solstar wrote:

SwordGrunt wrote:

Sean wrote:
ZDoom doesn't care whether it has an extension or not, as long as it's called "SNDINFO" and is valid syntax it'll work.

Ah I see, I knew SNDINFO could have any extension but I thought maybe it wasn't being recognized for having no extension in the PK3's main folder. Then that's not the issue here.

You should doublecheck the sounds being played to make sure they're the ones defined.

the sounds in slade works fine,i can hear them no problem.if that's was what you were asking

No I meant check the filenames so that they match the ones defined in SNDINFO. If they do, and you are using the names defined for these sounds, there's no reason why they wouldn't play.

this is the folder,and the name etc.and you can see they match to what i wrote in my sndinfo..so i really can't get it why they are not played

I dunno, it should be working. Try using only the first of the three lines that define the same sound, and remove the .wav from the sound lump name (cyclonepistol snd2826)

SwordGrunt wrote:I dunno, it should be working. Try using only the first of the three lines that define the same sound, and remove the .wav from the sound lump name (cyclonepistol snd2826)

ok i did as you said and left only this on the sndinfo file i created

// cyclone
cyclonepistol snd2826


and when i run it ,i have this error instead:

Invalid data encountered for texture samsara_ex-ha1.pk3:sprites/cyclone/weapons/cyclonepistol/snd2826

what does the "sprites" folder has to do with it?

Sprites folder is for sprites, if you put a sound it won't be recognized because the engine assumes ANYTHING in those folders is a sprite. So move it to the sounds folder appropriately.