Multi-way combat

[Lollipop]

Hey, I have been messing with this deal all day, and I am not able to find out how I can do this.
I basically want a coop/survival style game where there are custom monsters set on 4 teams.

I have tried thing_hate through acs, but the thing is that they cant hate multiple targets at the same time, which is a problem.

the reason why thing_hate dont work is because the hate targets overwrite each other and do not work alongside each other on the same hater, so if they are finished with their last specified target, they ignore the rest of the enemies.

I would be happy for any supplied help :)

[Zupoman]

Thing_Hate can be used from DECORATE, just telling that to you, if you didn't know that.

Of course a monster can't have multiple targets. Target is a thing that monster actively attacks, and monsters that swap targets all the time sounds like nonsense. A target queue? No shit sherlock, why use "precious" memory when you can just select a new target after the monster is done with its current one. Also what if the new target is suddenly far, far away? That does not make any sense to me.

Sorry for my blabber. Custom monsters set on 4 teams? I'd recommend looking at ZDoomWars source code, it is all about monsters in different teams attacking each other, and it does it pretty damn well.

[Lollipop]

1. I did not know thing_hate worked from DECORATE, thank you :)
2. The idea is to have them automaticly attack when an enemy is in sight, the idea is not to have them chase each other across the map :\
3. ZDW is no help, as the monsters attack each other because they belong to the player who made them, he shoot a projectile creating the monster, which makes the monster automaticly belong to him. A thread on zdoom forums said so.

Thank you for your ideas though :)

[Mr. Repo]

3. ZDW is no help, as the monsters attack each other because they belong to the player who made them, he shoot a projectile creating the monster, which makes the monster automaticly belong to him. A thread on zdoom forums said so.

Not true for team game modes. See without having some kind of property to set which team a monster belongs to, as soon as a monster hit another monster (or player) with fire there would be infighting amongst everything on the field.

http://zdoom.org/wiki/actor%20properties#DesignatedTeam

This is what ZDoom Wars uses to prevent said infighting and should be exactly what you're looking for here.

[Lollipop]

I tried that, don't work for coop/survival gamemode :(

[Virtue]

have the monster constant flip between friendly and not friendly using the A_changeflag action, thats how i got it working in my Aliens special edition TC.

like this:

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Spawn:
    PLA3 A 0
    SENT A 0 A_changeflag("friendly",0)      
    PLA3 A 10 A_Look
    SENT A 0 A_changeflag("friendly",1)       
    PLA3 A 10 A_Look   
    loop
  See:
    SENT A 0 A_changeflag("friendly",0)  
    PLA3 AAAAAA 1 A_Chase
    SENT A 0 A_changeflag("friendly",1)     
    PLA3 BBBBBB 1 A_Chase
    SENT A 0 A_changeflag("friendly",0)     
    PLA3 CCCCCC 1 A_Chase
    SENT A 0 A_changeflag("friendly",1) 
    PLA3 DDDDDD 1 A_Chase 
    loop

[Lollipop]

ok, I will try that out tomorrow, I dont have time today, I will edit this post when finished testing.

EDIT (after long time): I got this working proberly thanks to virtue, I had to download your file and look in it, because my monsters just ended up being stuck at looking at each others (as ijon predicted).
I looked into the files and I got it working, it seems to work just as I hoped for, at least for now.

[HexaDoken]

Eh.

Ignore all of the above because it's shitty.

Make use of A_GiveInventory, A_TakeInventory, A_JumpIfInTargetInventory and A_ClearTarget functions. Give an inventory item to each team, item corresponding to team. Have monsters of the team check their targets for the item of their team via A_JumpIfInTargetInventory. If the target has the item, use A_ClearTarget so the monster will target another monster instead.

Granted, this is imperfect. Zandronum does not really allow you to control AI that much so don't expect this to work flawlessely.

[Ijon Tichy]

Eh.

Ignore all of the above because it's shitty.

Make use of A_GiveInventory, A_TakeInventory, A_JumpIfInTargetInventory and A_ClearTarget functions. Give an inventory item to each team, item corresponding to team. Have monsters of the team check their targets for the item of their team via A_JumpIfInTargetInventory. If the target has the item, use A_ClearTarget so the monster will target another monster instead.

Granted, this is imperfect. Zandronum does not really allow you to control AI that much so don't expect this to work flawlessely.

Won't work. A_Look(Ex) will just grab the same target over and over and over again.

[HexaDoken]

It actually works for me.

Well, mostly.

Okay it works like only half the time which is far below ideal.

Still better than nothing.