0003000: Make distinction between vote action and reason more obvious

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(0016734) arkore (reporter) 2017-01-30 17:33	There was some chat about this. Just FYI. [10:13] <Konda__> rofl [10:13] <Konda__> damn, ppl are stupid [10:14] <Konda__> very innovative I must say [10:15] <Konda__> I use the fullscreen version of the voting hud but I remember that it's not the default [10:15] <Konda__> I think the default is a more obscure one [10:15] <arkore> i dont think people are stupid. they are casual, and you should consider the possibility that the vote hud design is at fault. [10:16] <Konda__> yep its probably the vote hud design [10:16] <Konda__> I'll have to check it out [10:16] <arkore> from what i've seen in tspg-painkiller admins discussing this for months, proxy detection isn't as easy as said. [10:18] <Konda__> uh I just checked and the minimal voting display clearly has a "reason:" string displayed before the reason [10:18] <Konda__> and the actual vote is displayed above [10:18] <arkore> yes, "reason: kick Jim" [10:19] <arkore> if Jim is the spammer, it's misleading. the vote is actually kicking arkore [10:19] <Konda__> sorry, people should learn to read instead [10:19] <arkore> you should learn people then. [10:20] <arkore> that attitude is how you will fail at game design. [10:24] <Konda__> you have a point about pandering game design to the average player [10:25] <Konda__> but this is just stupid [10:26] <Konda__> those people are either not reading, don't know english, or are plain stupid [10:26] <Konda__> is that really the average player? [10:26] <arkore> are you just learning now that people are stupid and all people aren't like you? [10:27] <Konda__> not this stupid

(0016735) Dusk (developer) 2017-01-30 19:11	Messing with the reason string just to fix this will obviously cause way more harm than good. Instead, I think it'd be better to make the reason more obviously a comment. For instance, it could be enclosed in quotes. Such as: kick arkore (reason: "kick Jim") should make it more obvious. If people still fall for it, then there's nothing we can do.

(0016736) arkore (reporter) 2017-01-30 20:28	True. Well, I like how it's all in one line like that, yes. I think multiple lines is part of the problem. When people are playing an intense mod, and suddenly a vote is shoved in their face.

(0016737) Filystea (reporter) 2017-01-30 22:53	Good old trick. Ahh Best Ever trolling times. It's not people are stupid but if you expect the vote you kind of don't read it just press the pageup. "bla bla kick troll bla bla" Right. PageUp. And random guy gets thrown out or map changes. 2 funny.

(0016743) Konda (reporter) 2017-01-31 09:54 edited on: 2017-01-31 10:37	Ok, so people just don't read in these types of situations... I suggest making the reason string of a considerably smaller font size than the actual vote, so the vote itself gets highlighted. Or any design choice that would make the player automatically first notice the actual vote and have to work harder to find and read the reason string. Maybe Dusk's suggestion but the bit that goes inside parentheses would be of a smaller font size and the actual vote itself would have a vibrant or flashy color while the reason would have a darker or less attention-grabbing color in addition to the smaller font size. EDIT: Now that I think about it, if just the font sizes and colors are altered, there's no need to change the current "layout" of the voting display. I'd still add quotation marks around the supplied reason for additional clarity though.

(0016744) Filystea (reporter) 2017-01-31 11:19 edited on: 2017-01-31 11:23	Few things could improve this. -Server can set longer time vote. -Server can set vote end after the time passes not after more than 50% voted yes. -Until vote time did not pass you can change vote from yes to no. there is protection against server flood mistake so you don't get kicked for it ).

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Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2017-01-30 17:06	arkore	New Issue
2017-01-30 17:33	arkore	Note Added: 0016734
2017-01-30 19:09	Dusk	Priority	high => normal
2017-01-30 19:09	Dusk	Summary	Remove first word of kick/ban reason, if word is "kick" or "ban" => Make distinction between vote action and reason more obvious
2017-01-30 19:11	Dusk	Note Added: 0016735
2017-01-30 20:28	arkore	Note Added: 0016736
2017-01-30 22:53	Filystea	Note Added: 0016737
2017-01-31 09:54	Konda	Note Added: 0016743
2017-01-31 09:58	Konda	Note Edited: 0016743	View Revisions
2017-01-31 10:14	Konda	Note Edited: 0016743	View Revisions
2017-01-31 10:18	Konda	Note Edited: 0016743	View Revisions
2017-01-31 10:19	Konda	Note Edited: 0016743	View Revisions
2017-01-31 10:37	Konda	Note Edited: 0016743	View Revisions
2017-01-31 11:19	Filystea	Note Added: 0016744
2017-01-31 11:23	Filystea	Note Edited: 0016744	View Revisions

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