[WIP] Complex Doom: LCA (Legendary Complex Addon)

[Mcmatthew]

Hey i have a few question about your mod. What does the legendary rune do? As far as i can tell it makes your shotguns shoot faster and your own rockets not hurt you. Also i was wondering if difficulty affects spawn rates or just the normal stuff like amount and quality of monsters.

[Sepia-Paper]

Hey i have a few question about your mod. What does the legendary rune do? As far as i can tell it makes your shotguns shoot faster and your own rockets not hurt you. Also i was wondering if difficulty affects spawn rates or just the normal stuff like amount and quality of monsters.

The Leg-Rune is 3 runes in 1

Increases Attack Damage
Increases Fire rate
Makes you immune to Splash Damage and Damaging Floors (Sludge/Lava etc) and Resistance to general Attacks.

Difficulty generally affects quality of monsters(Attack speed and Damage) but it primarily depends on the maps your playing.

[Twinkletwats]

Legendary,

Have you ever considered creating an LCA wiki? Or at least a compendium, a-la Doom 2 manual? Every time I join an LCA server on Zandronum, it seems like there's something new added and I can never quite seem to stay ahead of the curve. It would also allow players to distinguish between what is added from LCA vs other mods on servers that use multiple mods at the same time (for example, I played yesterday and saw Enraged Legendary Zombies and Imps, which absolutely wrecked my face)

[Jimp Argon]

Legendary,

Have you ever considered creating an LCA wiki? Or at least a compendium, a-la Doom 2 manual? Every time I join an LCA server on Zandronum, it seems like there's something new added and I can never quite seem to stay ahead of the curve. It would also allow players to distinguish between what is added from LCA vs other mods on servers that use multiple mods at the same time (for example, I played yesterday and saw Enraged Legendary Zombies and Imps, which absolutely wrecked my face)

I second this about the wiki.... Also the enraged Zombies and Imps have been a thing for a little while now.

When I last played (Yesterday) I came across a lengendary cowboy and Nazi's. Now that was both new & interesting.

[Sepia-Paper]

Legendary,

Have you ever considered creating an LCA wiki? Or at least a compendium, a-la Doom 2 manual? Every time I join an LCA server on Zandronum, it seems like there's something new added and I can never quite seem to stay ahead of the curve. It would also allow players to distinguish between what is added from LCA vs other mods on servers that use multiple mods at the same time (for example, I played yesterday and saw Enraged Legendary Zombies and Imps, which absolutely wrecked my face)

I second this about the wiki.... Also the enraged Zombies and Imps have been a thing for a little while now.

When I last played (Yesterday) I came across a lengendary cowboy and Nazi's. Now that was both new & interesting.

Cowboy ??!!!

[doomjoshuaboy]

Cowboy ??!!!

That was my idea and was in my own lca. -_-

Leg cowboy
Leg chainsaw
Leg revolvers
Leg chainsaw zombie
leg railgun (finished)
leg Sawed-off shotgun (Senpie's work)

[Sepia-Paper]

That was my idea and was in my own lca. -_-

Leg cowboy
Leg chainsaw
Leg revolvers
Leg chainsaw zombie
leg railgun (finished)
leg Sawed-off shotgun (Senpie's work)

Leg Kamikaze?

[Twinkletwats]

Legendary,

Have you ever considered creating an LCA wiki? Or at least a compendium, a-la Doom 2 manual? Every time I join an LCA server on Zandronum, it seems like there's something new added and I can never quite seem to stay ahead of the curve. It would also allow players to distinguish between what is added from LCA vs other mods on servers that use multiple mods at the same time (for example, I played yesterday and saw Enraged Legendary Zombies and Imps, which absolutely wrecked my face)

I second this about the wiki.... Also the enraged Zombies and Imps have been a thing for a little while now.

When I last played (Yesterday) I came across a lengendary cowboy and Nazi's. Now that was both new & interesting.

See and that's the thing. They had been a thing for a while, yet I had never seen them cause I hadn't played since before summer. If I had known about the enraged guys (through a wiki or something like that), I probably would've jumped on way sooner to give it a try.

[fr blood]

Guys please, do not put LCA and all these addons into the same bag.
The "Enraged" variants of Legendary Monsters are just a damn copy/past + bad recolor made by a lazy guy who isn't able to make his own code.
The Legendary Cowboy and Zombie are also from others addons, so please don't go ask here if you find anything new.

When you download the files if you don't see a new lca-v1.*.*.pk3 then it's only other addons.

And you could also open the .pk3 file using Winrar(something that everybody is supposed to have) to check the README.txt and see all the changes.

[Twinkletwats]

Guys please, do not put LCA and all these addons into the same bag.
The "Enraged" variants of Legendary Monsters are just a damn copy/past + bad recolor made by a lazy guy who isn't able to make his own code.
The Legendary Cowboy and Zombie are also from others addons, so please don't go ask here if you find anything new.

When you download the files if you don't see a new lca-v1.*.*.pk3 then it's only other addons.

And you could also open the .pk3 file using Winrar(something that everybody is supposed to have) to check the README.txt and see all the changes.

It would also allow players to distinguish between what is added from LCA vs other mods on servers that use multiple mods at the same time

But I'll definitely try reading the README

[Empyre]

Isn't LCA itself an add-on? My point is that add-ons themselves are not inherently bad just because they are add-ons.

[doomjoshuaboy]

Guys please, do not put LCA and all these addons into the same bag.
The "Enraged" variants of Legendary Monsters are just a damn copy/past + bad recolor made by a lazy guy who isn't able to make his own code.
The Legendary Cowboy and Zombie are also from others addons, so please don't go ask here if you find anything new.

When you download the files if you don't see a new lca-v1.*.*.pk3 then it's only other addons.

And you could also open the .pk3 file using Winrar(something that everybody is supposed to have) to check the README.txt and see all the changes.

Im definitely not going to put anything in to your lca so stop worrying about it. Its only just a addon. And also don't call me lazy either but everyone is liking my new stuff but i know that the leg cowboy definitely needs recoloring. Which is i understand that and i dont do monsters sprites i only do weapons recoloring. Thats all.

[fr blood]

Isn't LCA itself an add-on? My point is that add-ons themselves are not inherently bad just because they are add-ons.

Yes you are right, here LCA is an addon aiming for Complex Doom of course, but all the rest are addons aiming for LCA and man there are just too many of them, here we've got quantity > quality I wish all the authors could merge their stuff into a 1 serious addon.

[Fused]

I agree with Blood here. I refuse to play this mod because of the features in this. Even when it all began it was already a bad thing that you got legendary weapons in that ruined balance, but seeing what's added nowadays just makes me feel bad for Daedalus. This has only become an uninteresting attempt at making literally everything in doom "legendary", without any attempt to make difficulty, or to make the player feel like they accomplished something.

Those are my two cents. I see people actually like this for some reason as I see packet servers daily, but seeing all of these features just makes me wonder if the creators even realise what they're adding.

[Legendary]

Legendary,

Have you ever considered creating an LCA wiki? Or at least a compendium, a-la Doom 2 manual? Every time I join an LCA server on Zandronum, it seems like there's something new added and I can never quite seem to stay ahead of the curve. It would also allow players to distinguish between what is added from LCA vs other mods on servers that use multiple mods at the same time (for example, I played yesterday and saw Enraged Legendary Zombies and Imps, which absolutely wrecked my face)

I might make one in the future. That would be really useful so people could see what's new and the variety of new things the mod has to offer.

[Legendary]

Hi. I made two small fixes, and you're welcome to use them.

First one restores explosive minigun's select animation (in LCA proper it just pops from below).
(you might need to change it so it replaces the original exp-mini instead of redefining it though)
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ACTOR "Explosive Minigun" : Weapon
{
	Weapon.Selectionorder 690
	Weapon.KickBack 50
	Weapon.PreferredSkin "ExplosiveMinigun-Marine"
	Weapon.AmmoType "BulletMag"
	Weapon.AmmoGive 20
	Weapon.AmmoUse 1
	Weapon.UpSound "weapons/explosiveminigunpickup"
	Inventory.PickupSound "weapons/explosiveminigunpickup"
	Inventory.PickupMessage "Explosive Minigun"
	Obituary "%o was ripped to bloody chunks by %k's Explosive Minigun."
	AttackSound "sentient/fire"
	+INVENTORY.UNDROPPABLE
	+WEAPON.NOAUTOAIM
	States 
	{
	Spawn:
		CHNG X -1
		Stop
	Ready:
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlayWeaponSound("weapons/explosiveminigunpickup")
		CHNU ABCD 1
		CHNG A 1 A_WeaponReady
		Goto Ready+5
	ReadySpin:
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/expmgunspin", 5)
		CHNG ADGADGADGADGADG 1 A_WeaponReady
		Loop
	Deselect:
		TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("ExpMinigunActive2",1)
		TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("ExpMinigunActive",1)
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/weapondown", 5)
	Deselecting:
		CHNG A 1 A_Lower
		Goto Deselect+2
	Select:
		TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("ExpMinigunActive2",1)
		TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("ExpMinigunActive",1)
	Selecting:
		TNT1 A 0 A_Raise
		Loop
	Fire:
		TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfNoAmmo("EmptySpinDown")	
		TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("ExpMinigunActive2",1,23)
		TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("ExpMinigunActive",1,22)
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/expmgunspinstart", 5)
		CHNG ABC 2
		CHNG EFGABCEG 1
		CHNG ACEGADGADG 1
		Goto Hold
	Hold:
		TNT1 A 0 A_GiveInventory("ExpMinigunActive",1)
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/expmgunspin", 5)
		TNT1 A 0 A_GunFlash
		TNT1 A 0 A_Light1
		TNT1 A 0 Radius_Quake(2,2,0,1,0)
		TNT1 A 0 A_SpawnItemEx("OrangeShellCasing",25,-8,25,Random(2,4),Random(-3,-6),Random(3,6),0)
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/minigunfire", CHAN_WEAPON)
		TNT1 A 0 A_FireCustomMissile("PlayerExplosiveTracer",Random(4,-4),0,0,Random(4,-4))
		CHNF A 1 Bright A_FireBullets(4.8,2.4,-1,Random(6,10),"ModdedBulletPuff")
		TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfNoAmmo("EmptySpinDown")
		CHNF A 1 Bright
		CHNF BC 1 A_Light0
		TNT1 A 0 A_GunFlash
		TNT1 A 0 A_Light2
		TNT1 A 0 Radius_Quake(2,2,0,1,0)
		TNT1 A 0 A_SpawnItemEx("OrangeShellCasing",25,-8,25,Random(2,4),Random(-3,-6),Random(3,6),0)
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/minigunfire", CHAN_WEAPON)	
		TNT1 A 0 A_FireCustomMissile("PlayerExplosiveTracer",Random(4,-4),0,0,Random(4,-4))
		CHNF D 1 Bright A_FireBullets(4.8,2.4,-1,Random(6,10),"ModdedBulletPuff")
		TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfNoAmmo("EmptySpinDown")	
		CHNF EF 1 A_Light0
		TNT1 A 0 A_GunFlash
		TNT1 A 0 A_Light1
		TNT1 A 0 Radius_Quake(2,2,0,1,0)
		TNT1 A 0 A_SpawnItemEx("OrangeShellCasing",25,-8,25,Random(2,3),Random(-3,-5),Random(3,5),0)
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("sentient/fire", CHAN_WEAPON)	
		TNT1 A 0 A_FireCustomMissile("PlayerExplosiveTracer",Random(4,-4),0,0,Random(4,-4))
		CHNF G 1 Bright A_FireBullets(4.8,2.4,-1,Random(6,10),"ModdedBulletPuff")
		CHNF H 1 A_Light0
		TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfNoAmmo("EmptySpinDown")	
		TNT1 A 0 A_ReFire
		TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("ExpMinigunActive2",1,"ReadySpin")
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/expmgunspinstop", 5)
		TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("ExpMinigunActive",1)
		CHNG ABCDEFGABC 1
		CHNG DEFG 2
		Goto Ready+5
	AltFire:
		TNT1 A 0
		TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("ExpMinigunActive2",1,"EmptySpinDown")
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/expmgunspinstart", 5)
		CHNG ABC 2
		CHNG EFGABCEG 1
		CHNG ACEGADGADG 1
		TNT1 A 0 A_GiveInventory("ExpMinigunActive2",1)
		Goto ReadySpin
	EmptySpinDown:
		TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("ExpMinigunActive",1)
		TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("ExpMinigunActive2",1)
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/expmgunspinstop", 5)
		CHNG ADGADG 1
		CHNG ABCDEFGABC 1
		CHNG DEFG 2
		Goto Ready+5
	}
}

ACTOR ExpMinigunActive : Ammo
{
	Inventory.MaxAmount 1
}
ACTOR ExpMinigunActive2 : Ammo
{
	Inventory.MaxAmount 1
}

ACTOR PlayerExplosiveTracer : SentientExplosiveTracer
{
	Species "Player"
	DamageType "Player"
	+THRUSPECIES
	Scale 0.7
	States
	{
	Spawn:
		TRAC A 1 Bright
		Loop
	}
}

[/spoiler]

Another one gives the minigun an altfire mode just like the explosive one's.
[spoiler]

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Actor NewMinigun : "Minigun " replaces "Minigun "
{
	States 
	{
	Spawn:
		MNGN A -1
		Stop
	Ready:
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlayWeaponSound("weapons/minigunpickup")
		MGRS ABCDE 1
		CHAG A 1 A_WeaponReady
		Goto Ready+6
	ReadySpin:
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/mgunspin", 5)
		CHAG ABCDABCDABCDABCD 1 A_WeaponReady
		Loop
	Deselect:
		TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("MinigunActive2",1)
		TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("MinigunActive",1)
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/weapondown", 5)
	Deselecting:
		CHAG A 1 A_Lower
		Goto Deselect+2
	Select:
		TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("MinigunActive2",1)
		TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("MinigunActive",1)
	Selecting:
		TNT1 A 0 A_Raise
		Loop
	Fire:
		TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfNoAmmo("EmptySpinDown")	
		TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("MinigunActive2",1,22)
		TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("MinigunActive",1,21)
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/mgunspin", 5)
		CHAG ABCD 2
		CHAG ABCDABCDABCDABCD 1
		Goto Hold
	Hold:
		TNT1 A 0 A_GiveInventory("MinigunActive",1)
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/mgunspin", 5)
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/minigunfire",CHAN_WEAPON)
		TNT1 A 0 A_GunFlash
		TNT1 A 0 A_Light1
		TNT1 A 0 Radius_Quake(2,2,0,1,0)
		TNT1 A 0 A_SpawnItemEx("RifleCasing",25,-8,25,Random(2,4),Random(-3,-6),Random(3,6),0)
		TNT1 A 0 A_FireCustomMissile("Tracer",Random(4,-4),0,0,Random(4,-4))
		CHAF A 1 Bright A_FireBullets(4.3,2.6,-1,Random(7,10),"ModdedBulletPuff")
		TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfNoAmmo("EmptySpinDown")
		CHAF BC 1 A_Light0
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/minigunfire",CHAN_WEAPON)
		TNT1 A 0 A_GunFlash
		TNT1 A 0 A_Light2
		TNT1 A 0 Radius_Quake(2,2,0,1,0)
		TNT1 A 0 A_SpawnItemEx("RifleCasing",25,-8,25,Random(2,4),Random(-3,-6),Random(3,6),0)
		TNT1 A 0 A_FireCustomMissile("Tracer",Random(4,-4),0,0,Random(4,-4))
		CHAF D 1 Bright A_FireBullets(4.3,2.6,-1,Random(7,10),"ModdedBulletPuff")
		TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfNoAmmo("EmptySpinDown")	
		CHAF EF 1 A_Light0
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/minigunfire",CHAN_WEAPON)
		TNT1 A 0 A_GunFlash
		TNT1 A 0 A_Light1
		TNT1 A 0 Radius_Quake(2,2,0,1,0)
		TNT1 A 0 A_SpawnItemEx("RifleCasing",25,-8,25,Random(2,4),Random(-3,-6),Random(3,6),0)
		TNT1 A 0 A_FireCustomMissile("Tracer",Random(4,-4),0,0,Random(4,-4))
		CHAF G 1 Bright A_FireBullets(4.8,2.4,-1,Random(7,10),"ModdedBulletPuff")
		TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfNoAmmo("EmptySpinDown")	
		CHAF H 1 A_Light0
		TNT1 A 0 A_ReFire
		TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("MinigunActive2",1,"ReadySpin")
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/mgunspinstop", 5)
		TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("MinigunActive",1)
		CHAG ABCDABCDABCDABCD 1
		CHAG ABCD 2
		Goto Ready+6
	AltFire:
		TNT1 A 0
		TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("MinigunActive2",1,"EmptySpinDown")
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/mgunspin", 5)
		CHAG ABCD 2
		CHAG ABCDABCDABCDABCD 1
		TNT1 A 0 A_GiveInventory("MinigunActive2",1)
		Goto ReadySpin
	EmptySpinDown:
		TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("MinigunActive",1)
		TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("MinigunActive2",1)
		TNT1 A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/mgunspinstop", 5)
		CHAG ABCDABCDABCDABCD 1
		CHAG ABCD 2
		Goto Ready+6
	}
}

ACTOR MinigunActive : Ammo
{
	Inventory.MaxAmount 1
}
ACTOR MinigunActive2 : Ammo
{
	Inventory.MaxAmount 1
}

[/spoiler]

Also, I made a personal-use lite version of LCA, with all legendary stuff stripped off - I thought it's too crazy and imbalanced for enjoyable playing (for me at least).
If anyone is interested, I can share it - if Legendary doesn't disapprove, of course.

Thanks man. I'll be using the first fix in the upcoming lca version. I appreciate the fix you've made for me. If you see anything else please let me know. I can't really use the second one though as it'd change the original complex minigun. People are used to it the way it is so I'll just leave it alone.

[Legendary]

AHOY M8!

Well, it took me a while to find something official, but at last, after searching up random LCA stuff on Google, I stumble upon a whole thread for this wonderful mod addon! I've been waiting rather intently for the next version of LCA to come out so I can begin another demonstrative gameplay series on YouTube, showing off the goods that the latest LCA has to offer. This is part of my keen interest to give Complex Doom and LCA a little more attention, as I've noticed they don't seem to quite get as much as, say, the likes of Brutal Doom and the sort.

I'd like to think I'm helping you guys out a little by trying to spread the word about this addon and the content, because I feel you guys have done some fine work and you deserve to have LCA a little more known, as does Daedalus, who actually responded to a comment of mine on YouTube the other day, saying he's likely coming back to work on Complex after a year or so of hiatus. If anyone needs any extra help with things related to sounds or scripting, I'm always happy to contribute! :)

It's pretty neat seeing first hand what's going to be done next with LCA, and knowing in advance what to expect for the next version. After all the countless mods I've had a go at, I have to say that Complex with LCA is my favourite and I'd like to show more people out there as a way of giving back to you guys and your great work. And of course, it's nice playing with you :P


Also you better nerf those damn boomerangs, I swear...lol

Haha thanks man, I appreciate all the support you've given for lca. People like you are the reason I keep on going. Also that series you've been posting of tnt and plutonia are both really good. Keep up the good work man, also sorry for responding so late I meant to earlier but never really got a chance to sit down and read through all the comments.

[mifu]

Holy shit this is gone way out of hand.

I am about to perform clean up procedure 69 and cut the crap out of this thread, because apparently LCA is serious business. I also read that "Wads should be banned" Just fyi no one gets to decide who bans wads unless server admins dont want them (or unless they are quite bad in the level moonman.wad is)

Also Legendary, you and I need to talk about not only your double posting but the fact that you ignored not only your fellow community members but an Admin. Please PM me or hit me up on irc when you can (or I'll PM you after i get of my shift, its fine)

and Dynamo, I know your trying to get a point across but..... did you really need to do that?

Cleanup complete. Dont start this again otherwise ... well.. your gonna have a bad time

[Doomenator]

I wish all the authors could merge their stuff into a 1 serious addon.

And then all these people will start making patches for remove from the addon what they don't like.
For example: lca-music-off-v2.pk3

[Twinkletwats]

Finally finished Hell Revealed 2 with LCA last night.

Managed to get a True Legendary Cyberdemon to spawn on Map 29: Hell's Cauldron, and got to see most (all?) of his attacks from up on a cliff. I was really impressed with the amount of effort put into an enemy that spawns so rarely, pretty damn epic. Ended up saving and trying to fight him a few separate times to see just how good I was (spoiler: I got killed way more times than I killed him). Even with spread, rage, 500/500 life, and the D-BFG, he pretty much popped me in a split second every time.
Say what you want about LCA, but that's the type of challenge that keeps me playing Doom. Looking forward to playing through again whenever there's a new update.

Sidenote: Damn this forum is srs bidness